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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/4] slab: Introduce kmalloc_obj() and family
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 19:47:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202511241940.8278C53C@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aSUB1qrfhXp3suGn@casper.infradead.org>

On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 01:09:42AM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> so the Rust language people have clearly decided that this is too
> complicated for your average programmer to figure out, and you need
> explicit casts to make it work.

Yup, and this is correct: "intent" becomes explicit. Doing implicit
extension, narrowing, and truncation is just a mess. As part of the
Overflow Behavior Type work, Justin has also been looking at something
that would allow a typedef to not be allowed to be mixed with other
types (i.e. to do so requires explicit casts). For example:

__strong typedef unsigned short only_u16;
...
only_u16 foo;
int bar = ...;
...
foo = bar; // Build failure: mismatched types
foo = (u16)bar; // okay, explicit truncation

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-25  3:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-22  1:42 [PATCH v5 0/4] slab: Introduce kmalloc_obj() and family Kees Cook
2025-11-22  1:42 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] compiler_types: Introduce __flex_counter() " Kees Cook
2025-11-22  1:42 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] slab: Introduce kmalloc_obj() " Kees Cook
2025-11-22 19:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-22 20:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-25 18:56       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-25 22:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-24 20:38     ` Kees Cook
2025-11-24 21:12       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-24 21:20         ` Kees Cook
2025-11-24 21:33           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-24 21:44           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-24 21:50             ` Kees Cook
2025-11-24 23:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-25  1:09               ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-11-25  3:47                 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2025-11-25 11:54                 ` david laight
2025-11-26  0:49                 ` John Hubbard
2025-11-24 21:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-25  0:29         ` Kees Cook
2025-11-25  1:25           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-12-01 10:49             ` Przemek Kitszel
2025-11-22  1:42 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] checkpatch: Suggest kmalloc_obj family for sizeof allocations Kees Cook
2025-11-22  4:51   ` Joe Perches
2025-12-03 23:12     ` Kees Cook
2025-11-22  1:43 ` [cocci] [PATCH v5 4/4] coccinelle: Add kmalloc_objs conversion script Kees Cook
2025-11-22  1:43   ` Kees Cook
2025-11-24 12:50   ` [cocci] " Markus Elfring
2025-12-11 22:00     ` Kees Cook
2025-12-12  9:51       ` Markus Elfring

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