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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm, page_alloc: fail costly __GFP_NORETRY allocations faster
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 15:32:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251216203243.GJ905277@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251216-thp-thisnode-tweak-v1-2-0e499d13d2eb@suse.cz>

On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 04:54:22PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> It might make therefore more sense to just fail unconditionally after
> the initial compaction attempt, so do that instead. Costly allocations
> that do want the reclaim/compaction to happen at least once can omit
> __GFP_NORETRY, or even specify __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL for more than one
> attempt.
>
> There is a slight potential unfairness in that costly __GFP_NORETRY
> allocations that can't perform direct compaction (i.e. lack __GFP_IO)
> will still be allowed to direct reclaim, while those that can direct
> compact will now never attempt direct reclaim. However, in cases of
> memory pressure causing compaction to be skipped due to insufficient
> base pages, direct reclaim was already not done before, so there should
> be no functional regressions from this change.

Hm, kind of. There could be enough basepages for compaction_suitable()
but compaction odds are still higher with more free pages. So there
might be cases it regresses.

__GFP_NORETRY semantics say it'll try reclaim at least once. We should
be able to keep that and still simplify, no?

>  		if (costly_order && (gfp_mask & __GFP_NORETRY)) {
> -			if (gfp_mask & __GFP_THISNODE)
> -				goto nopage;
> +			goto nopage;

IOW, maybe directly select for the NUMA-THP special case here?

		/* Optimistic node-local huge page - only compact once */
		if (costly_order &&
                    ((gfp_mask & (__GFP_NORETRY|__GFP_THISNODE)) ==
                     (__GFP_NORETRY|__GFP_THISNODE)))
			goto nopage;

and then let other __GFP_NORETRY fall through.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-16 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-16 15:54 [PATCH RFC 0/2] tweaks for costly order __GFP_NORETRY reclaim Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-16 15:54 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] mm, page_alloc, thp: prevent reclaim for __GFP_THISNODE THP allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-16 16:26   ` Michal Hocko
2025-12-16 20:11   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-12-16 20:23   ` Zi Yan
2025-12-17 15:53   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-12-16 15:54 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] mm, page_alloc: fail costly __GFP_NORETRY allocations faster Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-16 16:28   ` Michal Hocko
2025-12-16 20:32   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2025-12-17  8:46     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-17 16:35       ` Johannes Weiner

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