From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD3958F5B for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2025 04:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=18.9.28.11 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1766203311; cv=none; b=QbIIvWj4f7zndDRovVmdcAbGLQanzdIbJ2otNiQq1n5ppeXK2B2X28FEoucSNKeS8Dl6sL0tA5O8P4cX/bmeVUxqI7QckfQx6GfuH8CCUXxorxRO+x/1uxxHL+i6c9chDvrYwJ+mtVU8WM55Pkx0j3RG/VMVa3Y/V0ldjfk434w= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1766203311; c=relaxed/simple; bh=tW5wsqpJLLsZTwYA5TnUVyGiuRQleE/X+t9eooq/N1U=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=HdCUxadmEiieJy+xthFi0ylgfQNQwZxUFoYTF5Li18XPnho883C96sbDRd88htRJGfkBkdHkTT9t71WLd2aAAE09ROB7chbvXg9RZkYUztYric4dVRupfwqUK5rI8aD/a302Zae/RAQsRDZBLgaPskTGa5CG57nF+i7sG2r+Oik= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.b=f76O1dPI; arc=none smtp.client-ip=18.9.28.11 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.b="f76O1dPI" Received: from macsyma.thunk.org (pool-173-48-82-200.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.82.200]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 5BK41E0b028398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 19 Dec 2025 23:01:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mit.edu; s=outgoing; t=1766203278; bh=jldb3qxInrDRVCbgevSKofXFxoZcGW2/YxEWPx9ZIGs=; h=Date:From:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f76O1dPICPVC5MFnyQ4AnmWGjKpvJwi0YFGJ0Np6u1T4tebtiWd8HMBEsYOihRuf8 4LP5tVO5Xx0vEiLObOHEc5//RtKj3PM3X7K49OsJ2H8TNHPGxDYwzECGL+bvylFwml etrf1mgjj/qHbsdxpY4oW8XbqZtw78MRw8vqeKuAYVnrvf8C4DmmBUW4HTMs6foSD4 7gbiFtK97XgTn9xoxog7oKFgaup4aVadF5g/gaD4mkXj1f8Lvdu2shbYXUKbL4oRDb 5nNPW/FKbA9laVNNZtlLQt/TxY+EIYdbmIINY9bgyxSoBjlo47u7CnsxxQlMeawuVU SmFH3kecdJoAQ== Received: by macsyma.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id F0FB850DD008; Fri, 19 Dec 2025 23:00:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 23:00:13 -0500 From: "Theodore Tso" To: Chris Mason Cc: Julia Lawall , "Paul E. McKenney" , Gabriele Paoloni , Steven Rostedt , Kate Stewart , Chuck Wolber , Dmitry Vyukov , Mark Rutland , Thomas Gleixner , Lorenzo Stoakes , Shuah Khan , Sasha Levin , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Follow-up on Linux-kernel code accessibility Message-ID: <20251220040013.GA42033@macsyma.lan> References: <90d56d30-232d-4930-ad9f-5aebade7cdf2@paulmck-laptop> <636d1798-3b37-293a-51b2-55d2ecc6d2d@inria.fr> <20251219170945.GA32430@macsyma.lan> <8dbb505a-8ad8-444e-a1f9-1578d76b8d44@meta.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8dbb505a-8ad8-444e-a1f9-1578d76b8d44@meta.com> On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 04:05:33PM -0500, Chris Mason wrote: > I recently pushed out changes that remove most of the process and focus > more on kernel internals. So hopefully over time we can get to > something that just documents kerneling in a way that is useful beyond > LLMs. One of the things which I found really interesting, and it was a bit of revelation to me, was how much we could have text that could be useful *both* as a documentations for humans, as well as instructions to LLM's. So I think both are important/useful. - Ted