From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: Clarifying confusion of our variable placement rules caused by cleanup.h
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2026 11:04:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260118110454.4d51a50a@robin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38d7b19f-b6ff-437b-bc88-fa2047ca556a@p183>
On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 19:23:07 +0300
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Such rules for headers are mostly harmless -- headers are supposed to be
> idempotent so ordering doesn't matter. But if ordering doesn't matter
> why have a rule at all?
As I mentioned, for aesthetic reasons only. If code is easy to look at,
it's easier to review. Especially for those with OCD ;-)
>
> Duplicate header are trivially caught by tooling.
>
> But such rules aren't useful either -- I've seen that Python IDEs hide
> import list by default (and probably manage it) because it is not "real"
> code.
>
> Rules for initializers can be harmful because ordering affects code
> generation.
I agree. I still prefer the upside-down x-mas tree approach for
declaring variables, but obviously if they also get initialized, then
that trumps aesthetic reasoning.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-18 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-18 16:39 Clarifying confusion of our variable placement rules caused by cleanup.h James Bottomley
2025-11-18 17:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-11-18 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:43 ` Al Viro
2025-11-18 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 19:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 19:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:21 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 20:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-11-18 20:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 22:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-18 23:32 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-18 19:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-18 20:28 ` James Bottomley
2025-11-25 13:09 ` Jani Nikula
2025-11-25 14:25 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-11-25 15:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-11-25 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-25 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-12-31 12:17 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-02 14:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-01-17 16:23 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-01-17 16:54 ` Bird, Tim
2026-01-17 23:32 ` David Laight
2026-01-18 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-01-18 19:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-01-18 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2026-01-18 19:33 ` Dan Carpenter
2026-01-18 19:52 ` Joe Perches
2026-01-18 21:07 ` Steven Rostedt
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