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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Jordan Niethe <jniethe@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, balbirs@nvidia.com, matthew.brost@intel.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, david@redhat.com,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, lyude@redhat.com, dakr@kernel.org,
	airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch, rcampbell@nvidia.com,
	mpenttil@redhat.com, willy@infradead.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Felix.Kuehling@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/11] mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 09:50:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260123135050.GV1134360@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l5jxxobpj6shwuuthsyxlzfnhs6dx4spvzcqxrycn4chtywniq@e2eaio4nhorq>

On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 04:38:49PM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > >> We need to be a bit careful by what we mean when we say "HMM" in the kernel.
> > >>
> > >> Specifically MIGRATE_PFN_SHIFT is used with migrate_vma/migrate_device, which
> > >> is the migration half of "HMM" which does depend on CONFIG_DEVICE_MIGRATION or
> > >> really just CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE making it somewhat arch specific.
> > >>
> > >> However hmm_range_fault() does something similar - see the definition of
> > >> hmm_pfn_flags - it actually steals the top 11 bits of a pfn for flags, and it is
> > >> not architecture specific. It only depends on CONFIG_MMU.
> > >
> > > Oh, that is hacky. But are HMM PFNs with any flag exposed to code outside HMM?
> > > Currently, device private needs to reserve PFNs for struct page, so I assume
> > > only the reserved PFNs are seen by outsiders. Otherwise, when outsiders see
> > > a HMM PFN with a flag, pfn_to_page() on such a PFN will read non exist
> > > struct page, right?
> 
> Any user of hmm_range_fault() would be exposed to an issue - most users of
> hmm_range_fault() use it to grab a PFN (ie. physical address) to map into some
> remote page table. So potentially if some important bit in the PFN is dropped
> that could potentially result in users mapping the wrong physical address or
> page.

Trim the quotes guys..

hmm is arguably returning phys_addr_t >> PAGE_SHIFT. This is a lossless
translation because everything is aligned, it isn't hacky.

The value it returns is not a "pfn", it is a hmm structure that has to
be decoded to something else using a hmm helper function.

I think we take a number of liberties going between pte, phys_addr_t,
pfn. If there are arches that use a special encoding for the mm PFN
then range_fault would need to call converter functions to get to/from
phys_addr_t.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-07  9:18 [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from physical address space Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] mm/migrate_device: Introduce migrate_pfn_from_page() helper Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:03   ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:49     ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09 21:03       ` Kuehling, Felix
2026-01-09 22:47   ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] drm/amdkfd: Use migrate pfns internally Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 22:00   ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:56     ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_device_{pfns, range}() take mpfns Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] mm/migrate_device: Make migrate_device_{pfns,range}() " Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] mm/migrate_device: Add migrate PFN flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08 20:01   ` Felix Kuehling
2026-01-08 23:41     ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] mm/page_vma_mapped: Add flags to page_vma_mapped_walk::pfn " Jordan Niethe
2026-01-13 19:44   ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:37     ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 22:49       ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:52         ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] mm: Add helpers to create migration entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: Add a new swap type for migration entries of device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-12  1:00   ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] mm: Add helpers to create device private entries from struct pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] mm/util: Add flag to track device private pages in page snapshots Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] mm/hmm: Add flag to track device private pages Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07  9:18 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] mm: Remove device private pages from the physical address space Jordan Niethe
2026-01-13 20:04   ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 22:33     ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 22:53       ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 23:02         ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-20 23:06           ` Zi Yan
2026-01-20 23:34             ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-21  2:41               ` Zi Yan
2026-01-21  4:04                 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-22  6:24                   ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-23  2:02             ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-23  3:06               ` Zi Yan
2026-01-23  3:09                 ` Zi Yan
2026-01-23  5:38                   ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-23 13:50                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-07 18:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Remove device private pages from " Matthew Brost
2026-01-07 20:21   ` Zi Yan
2026-01-08  2:25   ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-08  5:42     ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09  0:01       ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09  0:31         ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-09  1:27           ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-09  6:22             ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-14  5:41               ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-23  6:25                 ` Jordan Niethe
2026-01-07 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-07 20:54   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-07 21:02     ` Balbir Singh
2026-01-08  1:29       ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08  1:08   ` John Hubbard
2026-01-08  1:49   ` Alistair Popple
2026-01-08  2:55     ` Jordan Niethe

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