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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem" <abuehaze@amazon.com>
Cc: Mario Roy <marioeroy@gmail.com>, Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>,
	Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
	Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional newidle balance
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 15:05:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260204140552.GF3016024@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d162947f-e490-4b6b-aee3-458185001e95@amazon.com>

On Wed, Feb 04, 2026 at 01:59:24PM +0000, Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem wrote:
> On 04/02/2026 13:27, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 04, 2026 at 12:45:41PM +0000, Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem wrote:
> > 
> > > Version           | Benchmark name   | SUT EC2 Instance| diff %
> > > v6.12.66          | postgresql       | c7a.4xlarge     | -4.0%
> > > v6.12.66          | nginx_lb         | c7a.4xlarge     | -5.0%
> > > v6.12.66          | memcached        | c7a.4xlarge     | -11.0%
> > > v6.12.66_proposed | postgresql       | c7a.4xlarge     | -4.0%
> > > v6.12.66_proposed | nginx_lb         | c7a.4xlarge     | -5.0%
> > > v6.12.66_proposed | memcached        | c7a.4xlarge     | -13.0%
> > 
> > *sigh*, that actually made it worse for memcached :/ I'm not familiar
> > with the memcached benchmark, is this something I can run on a single
> > machine, or does it require high speed networking and 2 machines?
> 
> Yup that's true it's slightly worse on memcached with the proposed fix:( The
> memcached benchmark is kind of multi-layer test where you need at at least 2
> client machines and 1 server machine and 1 machine as a test coordinator.
> The server VM is able to achieve 12.5 Gbps of network bandwidth and the
> client each one is able to achieve 30 Gbps so I think it will be tricky and
> likely impossible to reproduce this on a single machine.

Urgh, yeah, while I have multiple machines, not two of them are the same
and I can only offer 1 Gbps of networking, that's not going to keep
anything busy.

> I will try to
> come-up with standalone reproduction steps that can be used to investigate
> this memcached regression. Meanwhile we will share the fio regression
> reproduction steps that I mentioned in my previous update. This should be
> much simpler in steps and can be done on a single machine.

Thanks! I have a few machines with a 'spare' nvme drive to run things
on, hopefully that is sufficient.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-04 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07 16:06 [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Revert max_newidle_lb_cost bump Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to sched_balance_newidle() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-10 14:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 14:37   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-12 14:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:28         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14  9:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 10:22             ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 11:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 13:11                 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Small cleanup to update_newidle_cost() Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:19   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 16:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional newidle balance Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-10 13:55   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-11-11  9:07   ` Adam Li
2025-11-11  9:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 12:04       ` Adam Li
2025-11-12 13:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-12 15:42   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-14  9:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-14 12:18   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-17 16:23   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-18 20:46   ` [PATCH 4/4] " Mario Roy
2026-01-23 10:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 11:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-23 12:24         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-28  4:08           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-01-27  4:15         ` Mario Roy
2026-01-27 10:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27 15:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30  1:44             ` Mario Roy
2026-01-30  4:14             ` Mario Roy
2026-02-24  9:13             ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: More complex proportional " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-25 12:22     ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Proportional " Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 15:48         ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-29  9:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-29  9:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-30 16:12               ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-30 13:16             ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-02 10:51               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-02 11:07                 ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 12:45                   ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 13:27                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-04 13:59                       ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-02-04 14:05                         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-02-04 22:48                           ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-27  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-27  9:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 16:24           ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-01-28 16:03         ` Mohamed Abuelfotoh, Hazem
2026-04-29  8:51   ` Qing Wang
2026-05-06  2:44     ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Replace random newidle_balance with Bresenham accumulator Qing Wang
2026-05-13  2:21       ` Qing Wang
2026-05-13  5:29       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-05-14  2:22         ` Qing Wang
2026-06-02  5:46       ` [PATCH v2] " Qing Wang
2025-11-10 19:47 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched: The newidle balance regression Chris Mason
2025-11-11 19:08 ` Josh Don
2025-11-12 21:59 ` Chris Mason
2025-11-14  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra

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