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From: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Justin Tee <justin.tee@broadcom.com>,
	Naresh Gottumukkala <nareshgottumukkala83@gmail.com>,
	Paul Ely <paul.ely@broadcom.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Aaron Dailey <adailey@purestorage.com>,
	Randy Jennings <randyj@purestorage.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dgiani@purestorage.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 15:24:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260204232456.GM3729-mkhalfella@purestorage.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <481562cd-0444-49db-8755-29436bec02de@suse.de>

On Wed 2026-02-04 02:10:48 +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 2/3/26 21:00, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> > On Tue 2026-02-03 06:19:51 +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> >> On 1/30/26 23:34, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> [ .. ]
> >>> +	timeout = nvme_fence_timeout_ms(ictrl);
> >>> +	dev_info(ictrl->device, "attempting CCR, timeout %lums\n", timeout);
> >>> +
> >>> +	now = jiffies;
> >>> +	deadline = now + msecs_to_jiffies(timeout);
> >>> +	while (time_before(now, deadline)) {
> >>> +		sctrl = nvme_find_ctrl_ccr(ictrl, min_cntlid);
> >>> +		if (!sctrl) {
> >>> +			/* CCR failed, switch to time-based recovery */
> >>> +			return deadline - now;
> >>> +		}
> >>> +
> >>> +		ret = nvme_issue_wait_ccr(sctrl, ictrl);
> >>> +		if (!ret) {
> >>> +			dev_info(ictrl->device, "CCR succeeded using %s\n",
> >>> +				 dev_name(sctrl->device));
> >>> +			nvme_put_ctrl_ccr(sctrl);
> >>> +			return 0;
> >>> +		}
> >>> +
> >>> +		/* CCR failed, try another path */
> >>> +		min_cntlid = sctrl->cntlid + 1;
> >>> +		nvme_put_ctrl_ccr(sctrl);
> >>> +		now = jiffies;
> >>> +	}
> >>
> >> That will spin until 'deadline' is reached if 'nvme_issue_wait_ccr()'
> >> returns an error. _And_ if the CCR itself runs into a timeout we would
> >> never have tried another path (which could have succeeded).
> > 
> > True. We can do one thing at a time in CCR time budget. Either wait for
> > CCR to succeed or give up early and try another path. It is a trade off.
> > 
> Yes. But I guess my point here is that we should differentiate between
> 'CCR failed to be sent' and 'CCR completed with error'.
> The logic above treats both the same.
> 
> >>
> >> I'd rather rework this loop to open-code 'issue_and_wait()' in the loop,
> >> and only switch to the next controller if the submission of CCR failed.
> >> Once that is done we can 'just' wait for completion, as a failure there
> >> will be after KATO timeout anyway and any subsequent CCR would be pointless.
> > 
> > If I understood this correctly then we will stick with the first sctrl
> > that accepts the CCR command. We wait for CCR to complete and give up on
> > fencing ictrl if CCR operation fails or times out. Did I get this correctly?
> > 
> Yes.
> If a CCR could be send but the controller failed to process it something
> very odd is ongoing, and it's extremely questionable whether a CCR to
> another controller would be succeeding. That's why I would switch to the
> next available controller if we could not _send_ the CCR, but would
> rather wait for KATO if CCR processing returned an error.
> 
> But the main point is that CCR is a way to _shorten_ the interval
> (until KATO timeout) until we can start retrying commands.
> If the controller ran into an error during CCR processing chances
> are that quite some time has elapsed already, and we might as well
> wait for KATO instead of retrying with yet another CCR.

Got it. I updated the code to do that.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hannes
> -- 
> Dr. Hannes Reinecke                  Kernel Storage Architect
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-04 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-30 22:34 [PATCH v2 00/14] TP8028 Rapid Path Failure Recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] nvmet: Rapid Path Failure Recovery set controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:03   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:14     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:34       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:41         ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-14  0:42           ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-14  3:56             ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] nvmet/debugfs: Add ctrl uniquifier and random values Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:04   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 13:47   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  0:50   ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11  1:02     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] nvmet: Implement CCR nvme command Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:40     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:38       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04  0:44         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:55           ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 17:52             ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-07 13:58               ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-08 23:10                 ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 19:27                   ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  1:34                     ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-07 14:11   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] nvmet: Implement CCR logpage Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:21   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:11   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:49   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] nvmet: Send an AEN on CCR completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:27   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 18:48     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:43       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:12   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:52   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] nvme: Rapid Path Failure Recovery read controller identify fields Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  3:28   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-07 14:13   ` Sagi Grimberg
2026-02-11  1:56   ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] nvme: Introduce FENCING and FENCED controller states Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:07   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 19:13     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:19   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:00     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  1:10       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-04 23:24         ` Mohamed Khalfella [this message]
2026-02-11  3:44           ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-11 15:19             ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:09   ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:27     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-10 22:49       ` James Smart
2026-02-10 23:25         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  0:12           ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-11  3:33             ` Randy Jennings
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset completion Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:22   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 20:07     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] nvme-tcp: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:24     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:48       ` Randy Jennings
2026-02-04  2:57       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10  1:39         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] nvme-rdma: " Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:35   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] nvme-fc: Decouple error recovery from controller reset Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:40   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-03 21:29     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03 19:19   ` James Smart
2026-02-03 22:49     ` James Smart
2026-02-04  0:15       ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-04  0:11     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-05  0:08       ` James Smart
2026-02-05  0:59         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-09 22:53         ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] nvme-fc: Use CCR to recover controller that hits an error Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-03  5:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-02-10 22:12   ` James Smart
2026-02-10 22:20     ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-02-13 19:29       ` Mohamed Khalfella
2026-01-30 22:34 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] nvme-fc: Hold inflight requests while in FENCING state Mohamed Khalfella

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