From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: JAEHOON KIM <jhkim@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
mjrosato@linux.ibm.com, farman@linux.ibm.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, fam@euphon.net, armbru@redhat.com,
eblake@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com, eduardo@habkost.net,
dave@treblig.org, sw@weilnetz.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 2/3] aio-poll: refine iothread polling using weighted handler intervals
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 15:17:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260330191744.GD179613@fedora> (raw)
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 12:02:21AM -0500, JAEHOON KIM wrote:
> On 3/25/2026 3:37 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 08:54:50AM -0500, Jaehoon Kim wrote:
> > > Refine adaptive polling in aio_poll by updating iothread polling
> > > duration based on weighted AioHandler event intervals.
> > >
> > > Each AioHandler's poll.ns is updated using a weighted factor when an
> > > event occurs. Idle handlers accumulate block_ns until poll_max_ns and
> > > then reset to 0, preventing sporadically active handlers from
> > > unnecessarily prolonging iothread polling.
> > >
> > > The iothread polling duration is set based on the largest poll.ns among
> > > active handlers. The shrink divider defaults to 2, matching the grow
> > > rate, to reduce frequent poll_ns resets for slow devices.
> > >
> > > The default weight factor (POLL_WEIGHT_SHIFT=3, meaning the current
> > > interval contributes 12.5% to the weighted average) was selected based
> > > on extensive testing comparing QEMU 10.0.0 baseline vs poll-weight=2
> > > and poll-weight=3 across various workloads.
> > >
> > > The table below shows a comparison between:
> > > -Host: RHEL 10.1 GA + qemu-10.0.0-14.el10_1, Guest: RHEL 9.6GA vs.
> > > -Host: RHEL 10.1 GA + qemu-10.0.0-14.el10_1 (w=2/w=3), Guest: RHEL 9.6GA
> > > for FIO FCP and FICON with 1 iothread and 8 iothreads.
> > > The values shown are the averages for numjobs 1, 4, and 8.
> > >
> > > Summary of results (% change vs baseline):
> > >
> > > | poll-weight=2 | poll-weight=3
> > > --------------------|--------------------|-----------------
> > > Throughput avg | -2.4% (all tests) | -2.2% (all tests)
> > > CPU consumption avg | -10.9% (all tests) | -9.4% (all tests)
> > >
> > > Both weight=2 and weight=3 show significant CPU consumption reduction
> > > (~10%) compared to baseline, which addresses the CPU utilization
> > > regression observed in QEMU 10.0.0. The throughput impact is minimal
> > > for both (~2%).
> > >
> > > Weight=3 is selected as the default because it provides slightly better
> > > throughput (-2.2% vs -2.4%) while still achieving substantial CPU
> > > savings (-9.4%). The difference between weight=2 and weight=3 is small,
> > > but weight=3 offers a better balance for general-purpose workloads.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jaehoon Kim <jhkim@linux.ibm.com>
> > > ---
> > > include/qemu/aio.h | 4 +-
> > > util/aio-posix.c | 135 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > util/async.c | 1 +
> > > 3 files changed, 99 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/qemu/aio.h b/include/qemu/aio.h
> > > index 8cca2360d1..6c77a190e9 100644
> > > --- a/include/qemu/aio.h
> > > +++ b/include/qemu/aio.h
> > > @@ -195,7 +195,8 @@ struct BHListSlice {
> > > typedef QSLIST_HEAD(, AioHandler) AioHandlerSList;
> > > typedef struct AioPolledEvent {
> > > - int64_t ns; /* current polling time in nanoseconds */
> > > + bool has_event; /* Flag to indicate if an event has occurred */
> > > + int64_t ns; /* estimated block time in nanoseconds */
> > > } AioPolledEvent;
> > > struct AioContext {
> > > @@ -306,6 +307,7 @@ struct AioContext {
> > > int poll_disable_cnt;
> > > /* Polling mode parameters */
> > > + int64_t poll_ns; /* current polling time in nanoseconds */
> > > int64_t poll_max_ns; /* maximum polling time in nanoseconds */
> > > int64_t poll_grow; /* polling time growth factor */
> > > int64_t poll_shrink; /* polling time shrink factor */
> > > diff --git a/util/aio-posix.c b/util/aio-posix.c
> > > index b02beb0505..2b3522f2f9 100644
> > > --- a/util/aio-posix.c
> > > +++ b/util/aio-posix.c
> > > @@ -29,9 +29,11 @@
> > > /* Stop userspace polling on a handler if it isn't active for some time */
> > > #define POLL_IDLE_INTERVAL_NS (7 * NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND)
> > > +#define POLL_WEIGHT_SHIFT (3)
> > > -static void adjust_polling_time(AioContext *ctx, AioPolledEvent *poll,
> > > - int64_t block_ns);
> > > +static void adjust_block_ns(AioContext *ctx, int64_t block_ns);
> > > +static void grow_polling_time(AioContext *ctx, int64_t block_ns);
> > > +static void shrink_polling_time(AioContext *ctx, int64_t block_ns);
> > > bool aio_poll_disabled(AioContext *ctx)
> > > {
> > > @@ -373,7 +375,7 @@ static bool aio_dispatch_ready_handlers(AioContext *ctx,
> > > * add the handler to ctx->poll_aio_handlers.
> > This comment refers to adjusting the polling time. The code no longer
> > does this and the comment should be updated.
> The comment about adjusting polling time is no longer accurate.
> I will update it in the next version.
> > > */
> > > if (ctx->poll_max_ns && QLIST_IS_INSERTED(node, node_poll)) {
> > > - adjust_polling_time(ctx, &node->poll, block_ns);
> > aio_dispatch_ready_handlers() no longer uses the block_ns argument. It
> > can be removed.
> I will remove the block_ns argument in the next version.
> > > + node->poll.has_event = true;
> > > }
> > > }
> > > @@ -560,18 +562,13 @@ static bool run_poll_handlers(AioContext *ctx, AioHandlerList *ready_list,
> > > static bool try_poll_mode(AioContext *ctx, AioHandlerList *ready_list,
> > > int64_t *timeout)
> > > {
> > > - AioHandler *node;
> > > int64_t max_ns;
> > > if (QLIST_EMPTY_RCU(&ctx->poll_aio_handlers)) {
> > > return false;
> > > }
> > > - max_ns = 0;
> > > - QLIST_FOREACH(node, &ctx->poll_aio_handlers, node_poll) {
> > > - max_ns = MAX(max_ns, node->poll.ns);
> > > - }
> > > - max_ns = qemu_soonest_timeout(*timeout, max_ns);
> > > + max_ns = qemu_soonest_timeout(*timeout, ctx->poll_ns);
> > > if (max_ns && !ctx->fdmon_ops->need_wait(ctx)) {
> > > /*
> > > @@ -587,46 +584,98 @@ static bool try_poll_mode(AioContext *ctx, AioHandlerList *ready_list,
> > > return false;
> > > }
> > > -static void adjust_polling_time(AioContext *ctx, AioPolledEvent *poll,
> > > - int64_t block_ns)
> > > +static void shrink_polling_time(AioContext *ctx, int64_t block_ns)
> > > {
> > > - if (block_ns <= poll->ns) {
> > > - /* This is the sweet spot, no adjustment needed */
> > > - } else if (block_ns > ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > > - /* We'd have to poll for too long, poll less */
> > > - int64_t old = poll->ns;
> > > -
> > > - if (ctx->poll_shrink) {
> > > - poll->ns /= ctx->poll_shrink;
> > > - } else {
> > > - poll->ns = 0;
> > > - }
> > > + /*
> > > + * Reduce polling time if the block_ns is zero or
> > > + * less than the current poll_ns.
> > > + */
> > > + int64_t old = ctx->poll_ns;
> > > + int64_t shrink = ctx->poll_shrink;
> > > - trace_poll_shrink(ctx, old, poll->ns);
> > > - } else if (poll->ns < ctx->poll_max_ns &&
> > > - block_ns < ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > > - /* There is room to grow, poll longer */
> > > - int64_t old = poll->ns;
> > > - int64_t grow = ctx->poll_grow;
> > > + if (shrink == 0) {
> > > + shrink = 2;
> > > + }
> > > - if (grow == 0) {
> > > - grow = 2;
> > > - }
> > > + if (block_ns < (ctx->poll_ns / shrink)) {
> > > + ctx->poll_ns /= shrink;
> > > + }
> > > - if (poll->ns) {
> > > - poll->ns *= grow;
> > > - } else {
> > > - poll->ns = 4000; /* start polling at 4 microseconds */
> > > - }
> > > + trace_poll_shrink(ctx, old, ctx->poll_ns);
> > This trace event should be inside if (block_ns < (ctx->poll_ns /
> > shrink)) like it was before this patch.
> >
> > > +}
> > > - if (poll->ns > ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > > - poll->ns = ctx->poll_max_ns;
> > > - }
> > > +static void grow_polling_time(AioContext *ctx, int64_t block_ns)
> > > +{
> > > + /* There is room to grow, poll longer */
> > > + int64_t old = ctx->poll_ns;
> > > + int64_t grow = ctx->poll_grow;
> > > - trace_poll_grow(ctx, old, poll->ns);
> > > + if (grow == 0) {
> > > + grow = 2;
> > > }
> > > +
> > > + if (block_ns > ctx->poll_ns * grow) {
> > > + ctx->poll_ns = block_ns;
> > > + } else {
> > > + ctx->poll_ns *= grow;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > + if (ctx->poll_ns > ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > > + ctx->poll_ns = ctx->poll_max_ns;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > + trace_poll_grow(ctx, old, ctx->poll_ns);
> > Same here.
> I will move the trace_poll_xxx functions inside if condition in the
> next version.
> >
> > > }
> > > +static void adjust_block_ns(AioContext *ctx, int64_t block_ns)
> > > +{
> > > + AioHandler *node;
> > > + int64_t adj_block_ns = -1;
> > > +
> > > + QLIST_FOREACH(node, &ctx->poll_aio_handlers, node_poll) {
> > > + if (node->poll.has_event) {
> > Did you consider unifying node->poll.has_event with
> > node->poll_idle_timeout, which is assigned now + POLL_IDLE_INTERVAL_NS
> > every time ->io_poll() detects an event?
> >
> > For instance, rename node->poll_idle_timeout to
> > node->last_event_timestamp and assign now without adding
> > POLL_IDLE_INTERVAL_NS. Then use the field for both idle node removal and
> > adjust_block_ns() (pass in now).
> Thank you for the suggestion, I think this is a good idea.
> After testing, it seems that node->poll_idle_timeout can be reused as you
> suggested,
> although a few adjustment are needed.
>
> currently, an event is detected and the AioHandler is added to the
> ready_list in
> three cases: run_poll_handler_once(), ctx->fdmon_ops-wait(), and
> poll_set_started().
>
> To accurately track the last event timestamp of an AioHandler, it seems
> necessary to
> update the timestamp in the following two functions:
>
> @@ -45,6 +45,7 @@ void aio_add_ready_handler(AioHandlerList *ready_list,
> {
> QLIST_SAFE_REMOVE(node, node_ready); /* remove from nested parent's
> list */
> node->pfd.revents = revents;
> + node->poll_idle_timeout = qemu_clock_get_ns(QEMU_CLOCK_REALTIME);
> QLIST_INSERT_HEAD(ready_list, node, node_ready);
> }
>
> @@ -53,6 +54,7 @@ static void aio_add_poll_ready_handler(AioHandlerList
> *ready_list,
> {
> QLIST_SAFE_REMOVE(node, node_ready); /* remove from nested parent's
> list */
> node->poll_ready = true;
> + node->poll_idle_timeout = qemu_clock_get_ns(QEMU_CLOCK_REALTIME);
> QLIST_INSERT_HEAD(ready_list, node, node_ready);
> }
>
> In addition, remove_idle_poll_handler() would need some adjustments as well.
> If this approach aligns with you had in mind, I believe it can be
> incorporated in
> the next version without any issues.
That works but I worry a bit about calling qemu_clock_get_ns() for every
event. The timestamp does not need to be precise down to the nano-,
micro-, or event milli-second. I think you could instead pass 'now' into
aio_dispatch_ready_handlers() and assign the new
node->last_dispatch_timestamp field there.
> > > + /*
> > > + * Update poll.ns for the node with an event.
> > > + * Uses a weighted average of the current block_ns and the previous
> > > + * poll.ns to smooth out polling time adjustments.
> > > + */
> > > + node->poll.ns = node->poll.ns
> > > + ? (node->poll.ns - (node->poll.ns >> POLL_WEIGHT_SHIFT))
> > > + + (block_ns >> POLL_WEIGHT_SHIFT) : block_ns;
> > > +
> > > + if (node->poll.ns > ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > > + node->poll.ns = 0;
> > > + }
> > Previously:
> > - if (poll->ns > ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > - poll->ns = ctx->poll_max_ns;
> > - }
> >
> > Was this causing excessive CPU consumption in your benchmarks?
> >
> > Can you explain the rationale for zeroing the poll time? Aside from
> > reducing CPU consumption, it also reduces the chance that polling will
> > succeed and could therefore impact performance.
> >
> > I'm asking about this because this patch makes several changes at once
> > and I'm not sure how the CPU usage and performance changes are
> > attributed to these multiple changes. I want to make sure the changes
> > merged are minimal and the best set - sometimes when multiple things are
> > changes at the same time, not all of them are beneficial.
>
> This snippet you quoted under "Previously" is also reflected in the logic
> within grow_polling_time() where a same approach is used.
>
> The difference is that previously. all AioHandler in the reay_list would
> update their own poll.ns using block_ns. As in the snippet below,
> if block_ns exceeded poll_max_ns, it would effectively be reset to 0 anyway.
>
> - } else if (block_ns > ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> - /* We'd have to poll for too long, poll less */
> - int64_t old = poll->ns;
> -
> - if (ctx->poll_shrink) {
> - poll->ns /= ctx->poll_shrink;
> - } else {
> - poll->ns = 0;
> - }
>
> I think I did not explain this part clearly enough in the commit message.
> Here’s a more detailed explanation of the current polling logic problem and
> approach:
>
> Problem:
> Starting from QEMU 10.0, poll.ns was introduced per event handler to
> mitigate excessive
> fluctuations in IOThread polling times observed in earlier versions (QEMU
> 9.x).
>
> However, in the current design, poll.ns is updated only when an event
> occurs, making it
> difficult to treat block_ns as a reliable event interval. Also, The
> IOThread’s next
> polling time is determined by the maximum poll.ns among all AioHandlers,
> which means
> idle AioHandlers with high poll.ns can have an outsized impact on the
> polling duration.
>
> For io_uring, idle AioHandlers are cleared after POLL_IDLE_INTERVAL_NS (7s),
> but
> ppoll/epoll, there is no such mechanism, so CPU consumption due to idle
> nodes can
> increase even more.
>
> Approach:
> To address this, we treat block_ns as an event interval and update each
> AioHandler’s
> poll.ns using a weighted factor. This smooths out polling time adjustments,
> preventing
> excessive fluctuations and ensuring that recent event intervals are properly
> reflected,
> which helps maintain performance while lowering CPU utilization.
>
> To use block_ns as an event interval, we update polling times for both event
> and non-event AioHandlers in each loop iteration. Non-event AioHandler do
> not require
> a weighted factor; this allows for rapid isolation of idle nodes, while
> ensuring that
> poll.ns can increase more responsively when an event occurs within a few
> subsequent loops.
Thanks for this information. Please include it in the commit description.
> > > + /*
> > > + * To avoid excessive polling time increase, update adj_block_ns
> > > + * for nodes with the event flag set to true
> > > + */
> > > + adj_block_ns = MAX(adj_block_ns, node->poll.ns);
> > adj_block_ns is not the blocking time, it's the maximum current poll
> > time across all nodes. It would be clearer to change the variable name.
> You're right. I will rename it to max_poll_ns to better reflect its purpose.
> > > + node->poll.has_event = false;
> > > + } else {
> > 4-space indentation should be used.
> I will also fix the indentation.
> >
> > > + /*
> > > + * No event now, but was active before.
> > > + * If it waits longer than poll_max_ns, poll.ns will stay 0
> > > + * until the next event arrives.
> > > + */
> > > + if (node->poll.ns != 0) {
> > > + node->poll.ns += block_ns;
> > Why is block_ns being added to an recently inactive node's polling time?
> > Here node->poll.ns no longer measures the weighted time until the
> > handler had an event.
> >
> > If the goal is to get rid of inactive nodes, then maybe the idle handler
> > removal mechanism should be made more aggresive instead?
> >
> > > + if (node->poll.ns > ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > > + node->poll.ns = 0;
> > > + }
> > > + }
> > > + }
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > + if (adj_block_ns >= 0) {
> > > + if (adj_block_ns > ctx->poll_ns) {
> > > + grow_polling_time(ctx, adj_block_ns);
> > > + } else {
> > > + shrink_polling_time(ctx, adj_block_ns);
> > > + }
> > > + }
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > bool aio_poll(AioContext *ctx, bool blocking)
> > > {
> > > AioHandlerList ready_list = QLIST_HEAD_INITIALIZER(ready_list);
> > > @@ -723,6 +772,10 @@ bool aio_poll(AioContext *ctx, bool blocking)
> > > aio_free_deleted_handlers(ctx);
> > > + if (ctx->poll_max_ns) {
> > > + adjust_block_ns(ctx, block_ns);
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > qemu_lockcnt_dec(&ctx->list_lock);
> > > progress |= timerlistgroup_run_timers(&ctx->tlg);
> > > @@ -784,6 +837,7 @@ void aio_context_set_poll_params(AioContext *ctx, int64_t max_ns,
> > > qemu_lockcnt_inc(&ctx->list_lock);
> > > QLIST_FOREACH(node, &ctx->aio_handlers, node) {
> > > + node->poll.has_event = false;
> > > node->poll.ns = 0;
> > > }
> > > qemu_lockcnt_dec(&ctx->list_lock);
> > > @@ -794,6 +848,7 @@ void aio_context_set_poll_params(AioContext *ctx, int64_t max_ns,
> > > ctx->poll_max_ns = max_ns;
> > > ctx->poll_grow = grow;
> > > ctx->poll_shrink = shrink;
> > > + ctx->poll_ns = 0;
> > > aio_notify(ctx);
> > > }
> > > diff --git a/util/async.c b/util/async.c
> > > index 80d6b01a8a..9d3627566f 100644
> > > --- a/util/async.c
> > > +++ b/util/async.c
> > > @@ -606,6 +606,7 @@ AioContext *aio_context_new(Error **errp)
> > > timerlistgroup_init(&ctx->tlg, aio_timerlist_notify, ctx);
> > > ctx->poll_max_ns = 0;
> > > + ctx->poll_ns = 0;
> > > ctx->poll_grow = 0;
> > > ctx->poll_shrink = 0;
> > > --
> > > 2.50.1
> > >
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-30 19:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-23 13:54 [PATCH RFC v2 0/3] improve aio-polling efficiency Jaehoon Kim
2026-03-23 13:54 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/3] aio-poll: avoid unnecessary polling time computation Jaehoon Kim
2026-03-25 17:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-03-26 18:17 ` JAEHOON KIM
2026-03-26 18:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-03-23 13:54 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/3] aio-poll: refine iothread polling using weighted handler intervals Jaehoon Kim
2026-03-25 20:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-03-27 5:02 ` JAEHOON KIM
2026-03-30 19:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2026-03-31 20:42 ` JAEHOON KIM
2026-03-23 13:54 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/3] qapi/iothread: introduce poll-weight parameter for aio-poll Jaehoon Kim
2026-03-25 14:04 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-26 15:55 ` JAEHOON KIM
2026-03-27 5:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-27 14:23 ` JAEHOON KIM
2026-03-25 16:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-03-25 16:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-03-26 16:13 ` JAEHOON KIM
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