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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	wangtao554@huawei.com, quzicheng@huawei.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, dsmythies@telus.net,
	shubhang@os.amperecomputing.com,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] sched/fair: Fix zero_vruntime tracking
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 21:43:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260330194314.GV2872@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANDhNCrzeJc+REYaAoboRAdxfmk_0-0vvp8pehf+hM3OuvxRhA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 12:40:45PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 3:10 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > This means, that if the two tasks playing leapfrog can reach the
> > critical speed to reach the overflow point inside one tick's worth of
> > time, we're up a creek.
> >
> > If this is indeed the case, then the below should cure things.
> >
> > This also means that running a HZ=100 config will increase the chances
> > of hitting this vs HZ=1000.
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 9298f49f842c..c7daaf941b26 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -9307,6 +9307,7 @@ static void yield_task_fair(struct rq *rq)
> >         if (entity_eligible(cfs_rq, se)) {
> >                 se->vruntime = se->deadline;
> >                 se->deadline += calc_delta_fair(se->slice, se);
> > +               avg_vruntime(cfs_rq);
> >         }
> >  }
> 
> I just tested with this and similar to Prateek, I also still tripped the issue.
> 
> I'll give your new patch a spin here in a second.

Stick both on please :-) AFAICT they're both real, just not convinced
they're what you're hitting.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-30 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-19  7:58 [PATCH v2 0/7] sched: Various reweight_entity() fixes Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] sched/fair: Fix zero_vruntime tracking Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-23 10:56   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-23 13:09   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-02-23 14:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-24  8:53       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-02-24  9:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-28  5:44   ` John Stultz
2026-03-28 17:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-30 17:58       ` John Stultz
2026-03-30 18:27         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-30  9:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-30 17:49       ` John Stultz
2026-03-30 10:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-30 14:37       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-30 14:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-30 15:50           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-30 19:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-31  0:38               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-31  4:58                 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-31  7:08                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-31  7:14                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-31  8:49                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-31  9:29                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-31 12:20                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-31 16:14                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-31 17:02                             ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-31 22:40                             ` John Stultz
2026-03-30 19:40       ` John Stultz
2026-03-30 19:43         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-03-30 21:45           ` John Stultz
2026-02-19  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] sched/fair: Only set slice protection at pick time Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] sched/eevdf: Update se->vprot in reweight_entity() Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-19  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] sched/fair: Fix lag clamp Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-23 10:23   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-02-23 10:57   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-19  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] sched/fair: Increase weight bits for avg_vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-23 10:56   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-02-23 11:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-23 12:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-23 13:06       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-03-30  7:55       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-30  9:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02  5:28         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-02 10:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 10:56             ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03  4:02               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-07 12:00                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-07 13:42                   ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Avoid overflow in enqueue_entity() tip-bot2 for K Prateek Nayak
2026-02-19  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] sched/fair: Revert 6d71a9c61604 ("sched/fair: Fix EEVDF entity placement bug causing scheduling lag") Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-23 10:57   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-03-24 10:01     ` William Montaz
2026-04-07 13:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-15 21:10       ` [PATCH 6.18] " John Stultz
2026-02-19  7:58 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] sched/fair: Use full weight to __calc_delta() Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-23 10:57   ` Vincent Guittot

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