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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v26 00/10] Simple Donor Migration for Proxy Execution
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2026 14:54:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260403125424.GA2872@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d2d4596-93d6-4d87-babc-084b8d6c2d98@amd.com>

On Fri, Apr 03, 2026 at 03:55:22PM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:

> >>  	if (sched_proxy_exec() && p->blocked_on) {
> > 
> > So I had doubts about this lockless test of ->blocked_on, I still cannot
> > convince myself it is correct.
> 
> Let me give a try: A task's "blocked_on" starts off as a valid mutex and
> can be transitioned optionally to PROXY_WAKING (!= NULL) before being
> cleared.
> 
> If blocked_on is cleared directly, PROXY_WAKING transition never
> happens even if someone does set_task_blocked_on_waking() since we bail
> out early if !p->blocked_on.
> 
> All "p->blocked_on" transition happen with "blocked_on_lock" held.
> 
> So that begs the question, when is "blocked_on" actually cleared?
> 
> 1) If the task is task_on_rq_queued(), we either clear it in schedule()
>    (find_proxy_task() to be precise) or in ttwu_runnable() - both with
>    rq_lock held.
> 
> 2) *NEW* If the task is off rq and is waking up, it means there is a
>    ttwu_state_match() and without proxy, the task would have woken up
>    and executed on the CPU.
> 
>    Since the task is completely off rq, schedule() cannot clear the
>    p->blocked_on. Only other remote transition possible is to
>    PROXY_WAKING (!= NULL).
> 
>    So *inspecting* the p->blocked_on relation without the
>    blocked_on_lock held should be fine to know if the task has a
>    blocked_on relation.
> 
> Only the task itself can set "p->blocked_on" to a valid mutex when
> running on the CPU so it is out of question we can suddenly get a
> transition to a new mutex when we are in schedule() or in middle of
> waking the task.

So my consideration was:

__mutex_lock_common()
  ...
  raw_spin_lock(&current->blocked_lock);
  __set_task_blocked_on(current, lock)
    current->blocked_on = lock;
  set_current_state(state)
    current->__state = state;
    smp_mb();

This means we have:

  LOCK
  [W] ->blocked_on = lock
  [W] ->__state = state;
  MB

Then consider:

try_to_wake_up()
  ...
  raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&p->lock);
  if (ttwu_state_match(p, state, &success))
    ...
  smp_rmb();
  if (READ_ONCE(p->on_rq) && ttwu_runnable(p, wake_flags))
    if (sched_proxy_exec() && p->blocked_on)
    	

This is effectively:

  ACQUIRE
  [R] ->__state
  RMB
  [R] ->blocked_on


Combined this gives:

  CPU0				CPU1

  LOCK				ACQUIRE
  [W] ->blocked_on = lock       [R] ->__state
  [W] ->__state = state;        RMB
  MB                            [R] ->blocked_on

And that is *NOT* properly ordered. It is possible to observe [W]
__state and pass ttwu_state_match() and NOT observe [W] ->blocked_on and
see !->blocked_on.

(on weakly ordered machines, obviously)

So that does a ttwu() but will 'retain' ->blocked_on -- which violates
the model. Which is about where I got.


That said; this race, while valid, doesn't actually harm. Because as you
say, this means that CPU1 is in the middle of mutex_lock() and will
observe the wakeup and cancel the block and clean up ->blocked_on
itself.

So yeah, I think we're good.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-03 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-24 19:13 [PATCH v26 00/10] Simple Donor Migration for Proxy Execution John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 01/10] sched: Make class_schedulers avoid pushing current, and get rid of proxy_tag_curr() John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 02/10] sched: Minimise repeated sched_proxy_exec() checking John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 03/10] sched: Fix potentially missing balancing with Proxy Exec John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 04/10] locking: Add task::blocked_lock to serialize blocked_on state John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 05/10] sched: Fix modifying donor->blocked on without proper locking John Stultz
2026-03-26 21:45   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 06/10] sched/locking: Add special p->blocked_on==PROXY_WAKING value for proxy return-migration John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 07/10] sched: Add assert_balance_callbacks_empty helper John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 08/10] sched: Add logic to zap balance callbacks if we pick again John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 09/10] sched: Move attach_one_task and attach_task helpers to sched.h John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-24 19:13 ` [PATCH v26 10/10] sched: Handle blocked-waiter migration (and return migration) John Stultz
2026-03-26 22:52   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-03-27  4:47     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-27 12:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 14:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 15:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 17:43       ` John Stultz
2026-04-02 17:34     ` John Stultz
2026-04-03 12:30   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for John Stultz
2026-03-25 10:52 ` [PATCH v26 00/10] Simple Donor Migration for Proxy Execution K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-27 11:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 13:33     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-03-27 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 15:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 16:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 16:57         ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-02 15:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-02 18:31             ` John Stultz
2026-04-02 21:04               ` John Stultz
2026-04-03  6:09               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03  9:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-03 10:25                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03 11:28                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-03 13:43                       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03 14:38                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-03 15:39                           ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03 21:08                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-04  0:26                             ` John Stultz
2026-04-04  5:49                               ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-04  6:07                                 ` John Stultz
2026-04-06  2:40                                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-03 12:54                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-04-03  9:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-27 19:15     ` John Stultz
2026-03-27 19:10   ` John Stultz
2026-03-28  4:53     ` K Prateek Nayak

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