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From: Carlo Szelinsky <github@szelinsky.de>
To: andrew@lunn.ch
Cc: o.rempel@pengutronix.de, kory.maincent@bootlin.com,
	andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
	linux@armlinux.org.uk, kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] net: mdio: treat PSE EPROBE_DEFER as non-fatal during PHY registration
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 2026 23:07:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260408210711.439068-1-github@szelinsky.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e12f0ac-be0d-4664-a533-df3bd1efb34a@lunn.ch>

So I went ahead and tested the phy_probe() approach on my setup (RTL930x
DSA switch with an I2C Hasivo HS104 PSE controller as module).

PoE itself works fine, but phydev->psec never gets set - ethtool just
says "No PSE is attached" on all ports.

Took me a while to figure out what's going on. The problem is how DSA
handles PHYs: when phy_probe() returns -EPROBE_DEFER because the PSE
controller hasn't probed yet, the PHY device is registered but sits
there unprobed. Then the DSA switch comes along, sets up its ports, and
phy_attach_direct() force-binds the generic PHY driver with
device_bind_driver(). Now the device already has a driver, so when the
deferred probe retry kicks in it just skips it. phy_probe() never runs
again and psec stays NULL.

What I'm seeing timing-wise:
  - MDIO scan registers PHYs, phy_probe() defers (no PSE yet)
  - DSA probes, phy_attach_direct() binds genphy
  - t=17s: HS104 finally probes
  - deferred retry: nope, driver already bound
  - t=35s: regulator_late_cleanup (caught by admin_state_synced)

Not sure what the best path forward is here. Should we look at fixing
phy_attach_direct() to handle this case, or go back to the non-fatal
EPROBE_DEFER approach from v2 for now?

Cheers,
Carlo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-29 16:10 [PATCH 0/3] net: pse-pd: support module-based PSE controller drivers Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-29 16:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] net: mdio: treat PSE EPROBE_DEFER as non-fatal during PHY registration Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 11:16   ` Kory Maincent
2026-03-29 16:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: pse-pd: prevent regulator cleanup from disabling unclaimed PSE PIs Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 11:17   ` Kory Maincent
2026-03-29 16:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: pse-pd: add lazy PSE control resolution for modular drivers Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 11:23   ` Kory Maincent
2026-03-30 11:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] net: pse-pd: support module-based PSE controller drivers Kory Maincent
2026-03-30 13:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 " Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 13:29   ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] net: pse-pd: prevent regulator cleanup from disabling unclaimed PSE PIs Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-01  2:28     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-06 10:22     ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-03-30 13:29   ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] net: pse-pd: add lazy PSE control resolution for modular drivers Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 13:29   ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] net: mdio: treat PSE EPROBE_DEFER as non-fatal during PHY registration Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 14:11     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-03 13:31       ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-03 13:38         ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-06  8:42           ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-04-07  9:31             ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-03 15:16         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-05 18:57           ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-06  9:30             ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-04-06 12:22               ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-06 14:12                 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-04-07  9:40                   ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-06 12:42             ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-06 14:43               ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-06 15:21                 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-08 21:07                   ` Carlo Szelinsky [this message]
2026-04-08 21:56                     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-09 12:30                     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-09 13:09                       ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-09 15:34                         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-09 16:08                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-04-09 19:54                             ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-13  9:28                               ` Kory Maincent

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