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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/task: always defer 'struct task_struct' destruction via RCU
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 22:01:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260508200157.kWPZI3p3@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260508-put-task-struct-many-v1-1-8341c18141a6@google.com>

On 2026-05-08 14:02:45 [+0000], Alice Ryhl wrote:
> The sched/task.h header file currently exposes a tryget_task_struct()
> function, but it is very risky to use it: If the last refcount of the
> task is dropped using put_task_struct_many(), then the task is freed
> right away without an RCU grace period.
> 
> This means that if the kernel contains a code path anywhere such that
> the last refcount of a task may be dropped with put_task_struct_many(),
> and it also contains a code path anywhere that tries to stash a task
> pointer under rcu and use tryget_task_struct() on it, then if they ever
> execute on the same 'struct task_struct', it results in a
> use-after-free.

If the counter dropped to 0 then tryget_task_struct() won't increment
it. There is also task_struct::rcu_users which holds one `usage' on it
and this RCU grace period we care about.

The only reason why there is a RCU free here is because of RT and it was
limited to RT only. Then a PI case came up (on RT again) I asked
repeatedly to have it unconditional on RT and !RT. Which then did
happen.

I don't think I would mind to align the two code paths but not as a
"this might be UAF if" but to do the same "thing". The important RCU
grace period happens via put_task_struct_rcu_user().

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-08 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-08 14:02 [PATCH] sched/task: always defer 'struct task_struct' destruction via RCU Alice Ryhl
2026-05-08 20:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-05-09  7:18   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-05-08 21:38 ` Andrea Righi
2026-05-10 13:41   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-05-10 18:36     ` Andrea Righi

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