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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	fuse-devel <fuse-devel@lists.linux.dev>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, John Groves <John@groves.net>,
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	Bernd Schubert <bernd@bsbernd.com>,
	Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.de>,
	Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [post LSFMM summary] where is fuse going?
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 13:33:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260512203322.GD9544@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegt=eWS_6ZfRsL_P79COKJKoLGNOsJ9g6TkrAhvhSbb7nw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 11:52:53AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2026 at 19:18, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > IMO, FAMFS sits somewhere between PASSTHROUGH and IOMAP.
> > The simple nature of the maps, the fact that famfs maps are const and
> > queried at file open time makes me think that famfs is much closer to
> > PASSTHROUGH than it is to IOMAP (in its full capacity).
> >
> > I think Joanne has mentioned that her customers have a use case for
> > multi backing ids per passthrough file and I assume this would be a pretty
> > simple map, so that sounds pretty darn close to famfs already.
> 
> TBH, I thought that fuse-iomap is just going to be a generalization of
> the passthrough interface.  At this point it seems like it's trying to
> do quite a bit more.

To me it's always been more about exposing to fuse servers the same
local filesystem file IO paths that in-kernel filesystems can use.

> > If we are being honest, then we need to develop features that users need
> > and if users need features, there are usually employers willing to pay for the
> > feature development and maintenance, if we let employers know that this is
> > what it takes to get their users what they need.
> 
> I fell that this is a "politically charged" topic.
> 
> Let's just say that maintainability is very important in big features
> like this.  Even deep pocketed employers can go broke or change their
> priorities, so we need code that can be understood by at least one
> additional person with a different background.  I think that would be
> a good enough guarantee that the code is not going to be a nightmare
> to maintain.

I can't credibly say much of anything to this right now. :(

--D

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-12 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11 15:12 [post LSFMM summary] where is fuse going? Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-11 16:43 ` Luis Henriques
2026-05-11 19:17   ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-05-12  8:46     ` Luis Henriques
2026-05-12  9:57       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-12  9:38   ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-11 17:18 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-05-12  3:20   ` Gao Xiang
2026-05-12  7:53     ` Amir Goldstein
2026-05-12 10:00       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-12 21:40         ` Amir Goldstein
2026-05-13  6:57           ` Gao Xiang
2026-05-12  9:52   ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-12 20:33     ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2026-05-12 20:23 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-05-19  9:01   ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-19 11:23     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-05-19 22:03     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-05-20 19:24       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-05-20 20:52         ` Darrick J. Wong

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