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[80.230.25.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-4909284a8efsm17556835e9.9.2026.05.27.22.06.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 May 2026 22:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 2026 01:06:40 -0400 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" To: Alistair Francis Cc: Warner Losh , Paolo Bonzini , Kevin Wolf , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com Subject: Re: on ai generated and code provenance Message-ID: <20260528010422-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <20260526140231-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20260526152526-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=mst@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.445, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: qemu development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 11:59:35AM +1000, Alistair Francis wrote: > > My worry has been one of testing: how do I test it all? Or do I continue > > to use the 'just build thousands of packages' as the acid test? > > > >> > >> So maybe we should add something here about don't send large numbers > >> of "small bug fix" patches. So someone doesn't point an AI at QEMU and > >> a spec and generate huge numbers of patches, all of which are just > >> small bug fixes. > > > > > > Wouldn't this concern fall under the general requirement to not send more > > than a manageable number of patches at a time (like 50)? Or do you think > > a lower number is warranted? > > I could see someone reading the proposed wording and then sending one > 20 line patch, then another, then another, then another, then another, > then another and then more. All while only sending "small patches", > but the ability to generate a large number. > > It's not clear to me at least from the proposed wording that we should > discourage that. > > Alistair Maybe we shouldn't? It's far from trivial to split up functionality even in 100 line self contained chunks, let alone 20. And reviewing such small patches is *easy*. -- MST