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[80.230.25.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-4909c0d5dc2sm109707855e9.2.2026.06.01.07.22.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 01 Jun 2026 07:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 10:22:32 -0400 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" To: Stefan Hajnoczi Cc: Albert Esteve , Alex =?iso-8859-1?Q?Benn=E9e?= , qemu-devel , virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev, dev@lists.cloudhypervisor.org, rust-vmm@lists.opendev.org, Stefano Garzarella , Manos Pitsidianakis , Demi Marie Obenour , Alyssa Ross , Mark Burton , Matti Moell , Stefan Hajnoczi , Viresh Kumar , Dorinda Bassey , Sergio Lopez , Vishwanath Seshagiri , Rob Bradford , Zhengyu Zhao , "Jorge E. Moreira" Subject: Re: Where should the vhost-user specification live? Message-ID: <20260601102216-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <874ijtz038.fsf@draig.linaro.org> <20260601083628-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20260601090953-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-MFC-PROC-ID: Of2GUm9RW8a7224D-o3TVUTlB0Omq71D5EdzH1Ta_lo_1780323757 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 09:51:40AM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:12 AM Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 03:05:50PM +0200, Albert Esteve wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 2:39 PM Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 02:32:11PM +0200, Albert Esteve wrote: > > > > > But also because, in my opinion, separating > > > > > the specification would improve development agility by decoupling > > > > > specification development from QEMU's review and release cycles. > > > > > > > > Generally for QEMU this will be less agility, unless I misunderstand > > > > what is proposed) > > > > > > > > Because presumably there will need to be spec releases then? > > > > > > > > So > > > > new feature -> spec tree -> spec release -> qemu implementation -> qemu release > > > > > > > > is surely longer that what we have now. > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > However, we do not really need to introduce a heavy release management > > > layer. We could just operate it as a living document, where the main > > > branch is the authoritative source of truth. > > > > > > For the workflow, development doesn't have to be strictly sequential > > > either. A contributor can propose the spec update while working on the > > > implementation, much like we do for VirtIO updates. Actually, this way > > > one update/change supports the other. > > > > > > I guess my point is that a dedicated repository could lower the > > > barrier for new changes AND keep QEMU's own development speed mostly > > > unaffected. > > > > > > BR, > > > Albert > > > > Something something submodule? Possibly. If you want to make progress > > on this, pls think of the process, try it out. > > If I understand correctly, the motivation for moving the spec > somewhere else is to replace the email patch review process with a git > forge review process? wait who said that? -- MST