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From: Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>
To: avagin@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 11:53:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260625085401.3787887-1-safinaskar@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANaxB-xUrLQYGiRJZc4Boi+KX=0TJSWymErNovANVko20fMDVA@mail.gmail.com>

Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 12:12 AM Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Does CRIU actually rely on ability to do SPLICE_F_NONBLOCK vmsplice into
> > named fifos? Or this is merely a test?
> 
> Yes, it does.

I. e. CRIU relies on that named fifo behavior? Okay, I just sent
v2 version of my fixes. The patchset contains fix for named fifos.

Please, test that this fixes that named fifo problem.

> I already explained that this isn't just a perfomance degradation, it
> actually breaks the pre-dump mechanism in CRIU. vmsplice is invoked from
> our parasite code within the context of a user process, where execution
> speed is critical. A heavy performance penalty completely invalidates
> the pre-dump logic, making the feature useless.

This is very unfortunate. But I still want to remove vmsplice.

> At a minimum, we may need to consider a deprecation plan where vmsplice
> with SPLICE_F_GIFT triggers a warning for a few releases before these
> changes are applied. Alternatively, we could introduce the proposed
> behavior alongside a sysctl to fall back to the old behavior and explicitly
> state that this fallback path will be completely deprecated in a future kernel
> version.

My patches change not only SPLICE_F_GIFT behavior, but also vmsplice
behavior in general.

Let other developers decide what to do (i. e. do nothing, remove
vmsplice now or implement some deprecation scheme).

-- 
Askar Safin

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-25  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-31  1:01 [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] tee: fs/splice.c: remove unused parameter "flags" from "link_pipe" Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-06-03 20:56   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-03 21:17     ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04  9:06       ` David Laight
2026-06-04 14:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 17:38           ` David Laight
2026-06-04 19:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 21:32               ` David Laight
2026-06-04 21:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05  9:32                   ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 15:54                     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:30                       ` Florian Weimer
2026-06-05 17:12                         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-06  9:16                           ` David Laight
2026-06-05  1:57                 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-06-05  8:23                   ` David Laight
2026-06-04 23:25             ` Askar Safin
2026-06-05 11:02   ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 16:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:02       ` [LTP] " Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 16:26       ` Mark Brown
2026-06-05 17:21         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05 17:21           ` [LTP] " David Hildenbrand (Arm) via ltp
2026-06-08 17:19   ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-08 18:42     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-16  0:36     ` Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] splice: remove PIPE_BUF_FLAG_GIFT Askar Safin
2026-05-31  8:54 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Pedro Falcato
2026-05-31 19:01   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-31 21:21   ` Askar Safin
2026-06-01 16:16     ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-02 21:12   ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 21:37     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 22:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-02 22:41         ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 23:07           ` Askar Safin
2026-06-02 22:54         ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03  0:05           ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03  1:08             ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03  3:51             ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03  4:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03  6:45                 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 13:40                   ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-03 15:26                     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:10                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 18:28                   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:22                     ` David Howells
2026-06-03 19:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:31                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 21:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 21:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 22:23                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 22:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-05 15:15                             ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 15:58                               ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-10  5:14                                 ` Herbert Xu
2026-06-10 14:17                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-10  5:09                             ` Herbert Xu
2026-06-10  9:55                               ` David Laight
2026-06-03 22:43                       ` Askar Safin
2026-06-03 22:49                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03 23:00                           ` Askar Safin
2026-06-04  0:01                             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 18:12                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-05  9:43                 ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-05 12:19                   ` David Laight
2026-06-05 15:20                     ` Stefan Metzmacher
2026-06-06 10:22                       ` David Laight
2026-06-03 11:43               ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-03 18:14                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-01  3:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-01 15:36   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-01 15:50     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 16:17       ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 16:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-03 19:24       ` David Howells
2026-06-01 16:23 ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-01 17:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-01 17:33     ` Al Viro
2026-06-01 20:04       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-06-02  0:28         ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-02  8:25           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 18:44             ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-03  7:50               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04  6:32           ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 14:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 15:53               ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 15:58                 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-04 16:15                   ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-05 15:41                     ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-05 20:54                   ` The 8472
2026-06-04 15:53             ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-04 16:09               ` Willy Tarreau
2026-06-04 17:25                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-06-03  9:57       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-06-15  6:25       ` Val Packett
2026-06-15 13:11         ` Joanne Koong
2026-06-16  1:15           ` Askar Safin
2026-06-16  6:38             ` Joanne Koong
2026-06-16  7:38               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-17 11:07           ` Christian Brauner
2026-06-17 19:57             ` Andrei Vagin
2026-06-18  6:34               ` Andrei Vagin
2026-06-23  9:42                 ` Askar Safin
2026-06-23 17:29                   ` Andrei Vagin
2026-06-24  7:12               ` Askar Safin
2026-06-24 17:52                 ` Andrei Vagin
2026-06-25  8:53                   ` Askar Safin [this message]
2026-06-25  9:03         ` Askar Safin
2026-06-05  8:35   ` Collin Funk
2026-06-04  0:45 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-06-04  1:52   ` Linus Torvalds

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