From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Mauro Matteo Cascella" <mcascell@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: outline some guidelines for security classification
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 09:43:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260707094203-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMxuvazpNiy8iqu76wJwiF3aKEizjgZaQFgF3gtHDXqiGh9Fsw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 04:43:43PM +0400, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 2:59 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Beyond the overall virt/non-virt use case classification, there are
> > a number of scenarios which we have decided will not be treated as
> > security issues. Start to document some of these to give consistency
> > in our treatemnt of incoming disclosures.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >
> > Mauro / Michael: please suggest any other rules which we have applied
> > historically on qemu-security disclosures that we should capture here.
> >
> > The vfio-user/vhost-user addition is a new one based on discussions
> > in some GitLab issues today/yesterday
> >
> > docs/system/security.rst | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/docs/system/security.rst b/docs/system/security.rst
> > index 53992048e6..fbbca50f95 100644
> > --- a/docs/system/security.rst
> > +++ b/docs/system/security.rst
> > @@ -75,6 +75,69 @@ Bugs affecting the non-virtualization use case are not considered security
> > bugs at this time. Users with non-virtualization use cases must not rely on
> > QEMU to provide guest isolation or any security guarantees.
> >
> > +Security boundary scope
> > +'''''''''''''''''''''''
> > +
> > +Even where a flaw affects the virtualization use case described above,
> > +not all scenarios will be considered in scope. The following guidelines
> > +are used to evaluate whether to apply the full security process, or treat
> > +an issue as a normal bug.
> > +
> > +* **assert** / **abort**. If triggering the code path requires kernel
> > + privileges (or root account access) in the guest, asserts/aborts in
> > + QEMU are a self inflicted denial of service. These will **not** be
> > + treated as security flaws, at most hardening bugs. If triggering the
> > + code path can be done by an unprivileged guest OS account, this
> > + **may** justify handling as a security bug.
> > +
> > +* **vhost-user/vfio-user backends**. The backend processes have
> > + shared memory regions co-mapped with the QEMU process. The intent
> > + of the process separation is operational resilience & flexibility
> > + and allowing for independent software suppliers. There is not
> > + considered to be security boundary between QEMU and the vhost-user
> > + & vfio-user backends. Thus flaws in the backends which can cause
> > + crashes / undesirable behaviour in QEMU will **not** be treated as
> > + security flaws, but should be fixed as hardening bugs.
> > +
> > +* **memory allocation bounds**. There are many ways in which a QEMU
> > + process can legitimately consume an amount of memory that is
> > + significantly larger than the assigned guest RAM. QEMU's worst
> > + case memory usage should be considered effectively unbounded. As
> > + such the QEMU deployment on the host should account for the
> > + possibility of large memory peaks and apply countermeasures to
> > + provide continuity of host operations. It is typical for the Linux
> > + OOM killer to reap the process triggering host memory overcommit
> > + in the case of exccessive usage, offering a degree of protection.
> > + As such, bugs which can lead to excessive/unbounded memory allocations
> > + will usually not be classified as security flaws, but should be
> > + fixed as hardening bugs.
> > +
> > +* **degraded guest behaviour**. There are a set of bugs which can
> > + lead guest hardware devices to misbehave. For example, a flawed
> > + virtual IOMMU operation may not offer the guest device isolation
> > + that would otherwise be expected. If a guest triggered exploit
> > + requires kernel privileges (or root account access), and leads
> > + to sub-optimal behaviour of the virtual device this is considered
> > + a self inflicted service degradation. These will **not** be
> > + treated as security flaws, at most hardening bugs. If triggernig
> > + the code path can be done by an unprivileged guest OS account,
> > + this may justify handling as a security bug.
> > +
> > +* **nested virtualization**. The scope for nested virtualization
> > + is to prevent a level 2 guest from breaking out into a level
> > + 1 guest. As noted above, a number of scenarios exclude security
> > + handling for flaws only exploitable by the guest kernel / root
> > + account with affect the guest's own service/availability. In the
> > + context of nested virtualization with PCI device assignment, it
> > + may may be possible for a level 2 guest kernel to trigger flaws
> > + that affect the level 0 QEMU process. While these bugs should be
> > + fixed, they will not be triaged as security flaws at this time.
> > +
> > +* **low severity impact**. As a catch all rule, issues which
> > + are judged to have a "low" severity impact on the system will
> > + usually not justify handling as security bugs, nor assignment
> > + of CVEs. They will be fixed as routine bugs when time allows.
>
> Should we have a section about management-plane protocols? (migration,
> QMP, monitor), since they already require trusted network access?
Yes please. But this can be a patch on top. For this one:
Acked-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > +
> > Architecture
> > ------------
> >
> > --
> > 2.55.0
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-07 13:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-07 10:59 [PATCH] docs: outline some guidelines for security classification Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-07 12:16 ` Thomas Huth
2026-07-07 12:20 ` Cédric Le Goater
2026-07-07 12:35 ` John Levon
2026-07-07 17:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-07 12:43 ` Marc-André Lureau
2026-07-07 13:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-07-07 16:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-07 16:28 ` Mauro Matteo Cascella
2026-07-07 16:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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