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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 03:28:49PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > On 7/7/26 14:40, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 11:49:31AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > >> On 7/7/26 11:20, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > >>> > >>> I think the silence suggests nobody :) > >>> > >>> What we could do is send a patch to simply add a section on adding a comment > >>> explaining _what_ used an LLM and strongly suggesting it would be helpful to do > >>> so. > >>> > >>> That should hopefully be uncontroversial, then later (or alongside that?) we > >>> could submit an RFC for making the language move to 'you MUST do this', as that > >>> will probably be the more controversial bit. > >> > >> Maybe we should just spell out about which scenario we care about where we really > >> expect the disclosure. > >> > >> Sure, it might be more controversial and we could have that in a separate patch. > >> > >> I was thinking of the following end result: > >> > >> diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > >> index 899f4459c52d2..4c2ab4dfc6da7 100644 > >> --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > >> +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > >> @@ -40,20 +40,37 @@ Attribution > >> =========== > >> > >> When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution > >> -helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. > >> -Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following format:: > >> +helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. Further, > >> +for reviewers and maintainers it is also crucially important to know how > >> +AI tools were used. > >> > >> - Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2] > >> +Contributions that used AI to generate significant portions of code, > >> +comments, or patch descriptions must include an Assisted-by tag in the > >> +following format:: > >> > >> -Where (preferred): > >> + Assisted-by: LLM # brief description of usage > >> + > >> +Or alternatively:: > >> + > >> + Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION # brief description of usage > > > > I would like to drop this one. As I understand, several people objected > > to including the product name in the git history as it is just free > > adverising, and nobody objected to dropping it. > > Yeah. I mean, we could go the following direction (dropping the models and > encouraging also a description of usage for other tools), but not sure how > much pushback we will get: I haven't heard anyone involved in this mail thread objecting to the concepts you translated into sentences below, so I think it's worth a try. Of course there may be objections from people who are not aware of this very conversation. > diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > index 899f4459c52d2..a085a15d59990 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > @@ -40,20 +40,26 @@ Attribution > =========== > > When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution > -helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. > -Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following format:: > +helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. Further, > +for reviewers and maintainers it is also crucially important to know how > +AI tools were used. > > - Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2] > +Contributions that used AI to generate significant portions of code, > +comments, or patch descriptions must include an Assisted-by tag in the > +following format:: > > -Where: > + Assisted-by: LLM # mandatory brief description of usage > > -* ``AGENT_NAME`` is the name of the AI tool or framework > -* ``MODEL_VERSION`` is the specific model version used > -* ``[TOOL1] [TOOL2]`` are optional specialized analysis tools used > - (e.g., coccinelle, sparse, smatch, clang-tidy) > +Similarly, usage of other specialized analysis tools should be > +indicated through an Assisted-by tag in the following format:: > > -Basic development tools (git, gcc, make, editors) should not be listed. > + Assisted-by: [TOOL1] [TOOL2] # optional brief description of usage > > -Example:: > +Examples for ``[TOOL1] [TOOL2]`` are coccinelle, sparse, smatch, and > +clang-tidy. Basic development tools (git, gcc, make, editors) should not > +be listed. > > - Assisted-by: Claude:claude-3-opus coccinelle sparse > +Examples:: > + > + Assisted-by: LLM # translate patch description > + Assisted-by: coccinelle # batch conversion with small manual fixups > davhil01@e142025:~/git/linux$ -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart