From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Hari Mishal" <harimishal1@gmail.com>,
"Jason Wang" <jasowangio@gmail.com>,
"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
elena.reshetova@intel.com, carlos.bilbao.osdev@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] virtio-mem: validate device-reported block size
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2026 12:44:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026071717-unfiled-manned-3305@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5877a6ae-5a9c-4376-8297-f17695964db0@kernel.org>
On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 11:21:34AM +0100, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 7/17/26 12:15, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 06:10:41AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2026 at 11:14:23AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why not do what USB does? Don't trust the device until AFTER probe()
> >>> succeeds? All of the needed checking should happen before then, as that
> >>> is a "slow path" so lots of validation and the like can happen at that
> >>> point.
> >>>
> >>> After that, during the normal data paths, after the driver is bound,
> >>> trust it all you want as attempting to validate every single packet is
> >>> just going to be impossible.
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> greg k-h
> >>
> >> People do expect that data path validation at this point.
> >
> > Ok, so you want this patch :)
>
> I fail to see the value of this patch given that there are plenty of other cases
> the device can mess with us.
How can the device mess with us?
> But sure, let's check for some conditions if it makes us feel warm and fluffy as
> we audited a driver and it's now super safe, fine with me.
I'm all for the folly of "it's an audited driver!" claims, but you all
need to decide either you do or you do not trust the device. Either way
is fine with me.
If you don't trust it, great, take patches that fix that. If you do
trust it, great, reject those types of patches.
But pick one please.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-17 10:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-15 14:22 [PATCH 0/4] virtio: validate device-reported values across drivers Hari Mishal
2026-07-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] virtio-mem: validate device-reported block size Hari Mishal
2026-07-15 14:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-15 15:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-15 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 " Hari Mishal
2026-07-16 8:55 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-16 14:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-16 15:59 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-17 5:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-17 5:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 8:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-17 8:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 9:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-17 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 10:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-17 10:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-17 10:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 10:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2026-07-17 11:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-17 10:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 10:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-17 10:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 12:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-17 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 14:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-17 15:27 ` Michael Kelley
2026-07-17 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-17 16:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 2/4] virtio_input: validate device-reported multitouch slot count Hari Mishal
2026-07-15 14:35 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-15 15:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-15 16:07 ` Hari Mishal
2026-07-15 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-07-15 18:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov
[not found] ` <CAMmC+=DXS=xs0CZyf+N-71NT8D51xQYatBv=dfVQC1aBohDdmA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <alkTnRb9qhgcMGGi@google.com>
2026-07-16 17:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2026-07-15 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 " Hari Mishal
2026-07-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 3/4] virtio_console: avoid NULL portdev dereference in in_intr() Hari Mishal
2026-07-15 14:37 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] virtio_console: take a kref in find_port_by_vq() to fix port UAF Hari Mishal
2026-07-15 14:38 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-15 14:42 ` [PATCH v2 " Hari Mishal
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