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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:43:12 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/6] Deliver TLS control records to kernel
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:27:54 -0400 Chuck Lever wrote:
> - The no-data cap (patch 1) is a prerequisite, not a stand-alone fix.
>   Once control records reach read_sock, a record carrying no payload
>   stops advancing the caller's read descriptor, so a peer streaming
>   such records would pin the socket lock and the kernel receive
>   context for as long as the flood lasts. Bounding consecutive
>   no-data records supplies the return boundary a system call would
>   otherwise provide. The cap is scoped to tls_sw_read_sock() alone:
>   splice and recvmsg run in the caller's own context, reschedule, and
>   drop the lock on return, so they need nothing.

Is it just me or this is incomprehensible slop? Run on sentences 
full of terms no kernel developer would use?