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From: Steffen Eiden <seiden@linux.ibm.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 02/23] KVM: Make device name configurable
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2026 13:42:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260903114241.33034-C-seiden@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aphLXQL1H2zYZgTi@google.com>

On Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 09:14:21AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 02, 2026, Steffen Eiden wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 01, 2026 at 05:40:25PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2026, Steffen Eiden wrote:
> > > > Allow KVM implementations to choose alternative device names. This is
> > > > especially useful for architectures providing multiple KVM
> > > > implementations simultaneously. Architectures providing multiple KVM
> > > > implementations must compile the KVM common code once per
> > > > implementation and mange symbols.
> > > 
> > > What about tracepoints?  Or do those show up as "kvm" and "kvm-arm64"?
> > 
> > Yes, I want them to show up as kvm and  kvm-arm64.
> > 
> > Thanks for pointing that out - I just noticed that I forgot to switch
> > the trace system to kvm-arm64 for the common tracepoints in
> > trace/events/kvm.h
> > I only did it for the arch-local traces in PATCH 21.
> > 
> > I would just do the following:
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/trace/events/kvm.h b/include/trace/events/kvm.h
> > index b282e3a86769..5d4f8a0693a3 100644
> > --- a/include/trace/events/kvm.h
> > +++ b/include/trace/events/kvm.h
> > @@ -5,7 +5,11 @@
> >  #include <linux/tracepoint.h>
> > 
> >  #undef TRACE_SYSTEM
> > +#ifdef KVM_S390_ARM64
> 
> Side topic, I recommend choosing a macro name that doesn't have a near-collision
> with CONFIG_KVM_S390_ARM64.  This *looks* like a typo, i.e. it looks like you
> forgot the CONFIG_ prefix.  Especially since the macro is defined in the Makefile
> and won't show up with e.g. "git grep -w KVM_S390_ARM64". E.g. KVM_S390_BUILD_ARM64
> or something?

Interesting. The name was deliberately chosen to be similar. But I
see that it could be confusing.

I am not totally happy with KVM_S390_BUILD_ARM64 but I cannot find a
better name either.

> 
> Side topic #2, this entire approach seems extremely brittle unless you make it
> all but impossible for non-KVM code to get at KVM structure definitions.  Outside
> of KVM, all compilation units will see the s390 version of KVM structures.  Which
> is "fine", but obviously dangerous and IMO asking for maintenance issues down the
> road.
> 
> > +#define TRACE_SYSTEM kvm-arm64
> > +#else
> >  #define TRACE_SYSTEM kvm
> > +#endif /* KVM_S390_ARM64 */
> > 
> >  #define ERSN(x) { KVM_EXIT_##x, "KVM_EXIT_" #x }
> > 
> > 
> > This would leak a bit of arm on s390 into common KVM but I do not see
> > another way.
> 
> Morpheus: Stop trying to use macros, and use macros!
> 
> The most annoying thing is that macro shenanigans don't play well with hyphens,
> but that can be handled either by using a different macro for the trace name, or
> by creating /dev/kvm_arm64 instead of /dev/kvm-arm64.  My vote would be to have
> the device be /dev/kvm_arm64, assuming that doesn't cause problems elsewhere.

I am not aware of any problems that could cause. It was just a personal
preference IIRC. 

> And taking things a few steps further, we can solve the MMIO issue in a more
> elegant way, and eliminate the runtime string building in this patch (after looking
> more closely, that code needs to be jettisoned no matter what, there's simply no
> reason to specify the names at runtime since they're separate compilation units).
> 
> Rather than splatter #defines throughout header files, deal with the bulk of the
> pain in Makefile.kvm.  By feeding conditionals into Makefile.kvm, the s390+arm64
> build can easily omit coalesced_mmio.o and async_pf.o, define __KVM_HAVE_ARCH_MMIO
> programatically without having to change other architectures, and solve the naming
> stuff.

Yes, this is a great idea. Thank you. I second you, this looks more clean
and stable than the stuff we came up with :) 

I'll integrate it into the series and send it with the next round.

Thank you for your input. Very much appreciated.

	Steffen

...


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-03 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-31 14:47 [PATCH v7 00/23] KVM: s390: Introduce arm64 KVM Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 01/23] vfio: Use file-based reference counting for KVM Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:16   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 02/23] KVM: Make device name configurable Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-02  0:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-02  7:50     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02 16:14       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 11:42         ` Steffen Eiden [this message]
2026-09-03 14:30           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 14:32             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 14:45               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 14:55                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-09-03 15:54                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 19:13                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-09-03 20:58                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-15 15:12                         ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-03 15:48           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 03/23] KVM: Allow KVM implementations to switch off MMIO independent of Kconfig Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-02  0:38   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-02  8:22     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02  8:30     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-02  9:13       ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02 13:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-02 15:50           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 04/23] arm64: Use proper include variant Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 05/23] arm64: ptrace: Use constants for compat register numbers Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 06/23] arm64: sysreg: Convert SPSR_ELx to automatic register generation Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:38   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 07/23] KVM: arm64: Access elements of vcpu_gp_regs individually Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:42   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 08/23] KVM: arm64: Use accessor functions for core regs Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:45   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 09/23] arm64: Prepare sharing arm64 headers with s390 Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 18:50   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 10/23] arm64: Share " Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 19:03   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 11/23] KVM: arm64: Share arm64 code " Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 19:14   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-01  8:13   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-01  8:40     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-02  7:41       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-02 12:41         ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-12 11:43           ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-15 15:17             ` Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 12/23] s390/tools: Use arm64 headers Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 19:18   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 13/23] KVM: s390: Use arm64 code Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 19:26   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 14/23] KVM: s390: Prepare KVM/s390 for a second KVM module Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 19:47   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 15/23] s390: Introduce Start Arm Execution instruction Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 20:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 16/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Introduce host definitions Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 20:16   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 17/23] s390/hwcaps: Report SAE support as hwcap Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 20:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 18/23] KVM: s390: Add basic arm64 kvm module Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 20:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 19/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement required functions Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 21:13   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 20/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement vm/vcpu create destroy Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 21:30   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 21/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement vCPU IOCTLs Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 21:47   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-03 13:27   ` Janosch Frank
2026-09-16 15:00     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 14:47 ` [PATCH v7 22/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Implement basic page fault handler Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 22:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 14:48 ` [PATCH v7 23/23] KVM: s390: arm64: Add KVM_S390_ARM64 Kconfig and Makefile Steffen Eiden
2026-08-31 22:19   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-02 16:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03  8:38     ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-03 14:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 15:43         ` Steffen Eiden
2026-09-03 16:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-03 16:41             ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-09-17 11:07             ` Christian Borntraeger
2026-09-17 11:41               ` Steffen Eiden

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