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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/osq_lock: Ensure proper locking semantics for osq_lock/osq_unlock()
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 09:36:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260915093651.13d59166@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260915051905.GB776954@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 07:19:05 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 10:30:12PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > On 9/14/26 7:22 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:  
> 
> > > This doesn't make sense. You cannot argue that the code is correct as is
> > > and still add Fixes.  
> > 
> > That is true. I added this paragraph to show that it is not a serious bug,
> > but I still think it is better to fix it or we have to explicitly say that
> > it is not a real lock in term of how it can be used. I have taken it out to
> > avoid confusion.  
> 
> "It is not a real lock" will do. It has always been meant as a optimistic
> spin queue -- very much not a lock.
> 
> 

I'm not so sure, assuming that is probably short sighted and it will
cause grief sometime in the future.

I did start trying to locate the actual race.
If a read barrier fixes it there must be two reads that get swapped,
so it should be possible to find them.
Unfortunately I don't have a system that is likely to reproduce the error.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-10 14:19 [PATCH] locking/osq_lock: Ensure proper locking semantics for osq_lock/osq_unlock() Waiman Long
2026-09-14  8:10 ` [PATCH] p " Haakon Bugge
2026-09-14  9:53 ` [PATCH] locking/osq_lock: Ensure proper locking semantics " David Laight
2026-09-14 20:22   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-14 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15  2:30   ` Waiman Long
2026-09-15  5:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15  8:36       ` David Laight [this message]
2026-09-15  8:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-17 17:01       ` Haakon Bugge
     [not found] ` <B7EAC6BE-D491-428E-8943-CE2F6DF390C6@oracle.com>
2026-09-15  1:09   ` Waiman Long

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