From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 next 3/9] locking/osq_lock: Set prev_cpu=0 instead of locked=1
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 18:47:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260915184717.4735afbb@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260915140152.GC4121339@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:01:52 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 02:55:13PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
>
> > > That comment *should* obviously have been here. Also, I would *much*
> > > rather have this store at the top, next to node->next = NULL; That is
> > > much saner.
> >
> >
> > Part of the original reason I started these patches was to remove
> > the writes to the current cpu's 'node' in the fast path acquire.
> > That completely saves reading the cache line.
> > It also means the initial xchg need only have acquire semantics.
>
> That makes no sense... you *have* to write node->prev_cpu, and since you
> get to have the line dirty for that, a few more stores to the same line
> are 'free', no?
But you don't always have to do that write.
If the lock isn't held then you only have to update osq_lock->tail
to contain the current cpu number.
The per-cpu data remains zero - the same as when unlocked (and initialised).
David
>
> Trying to make the code keep invariants like that also makes it
> needlessly convoluted.
>
> If you need a store -- and you do, then you might as well write the
> whole thing.
>
> And if you think it makes a difference, your changelogs completely lack
> any factual data to that effect. That is, there are no numbers. And
> without numbers, we're just not doing this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-15 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-07 8:41 [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code David Laight
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 1/9] locking/osq_lock: Add some comments about how it works David Laight
2026-09-09 14:57 ` Waiman Long
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 2/9] locking/osq_lock: Save the cpu number for 'prev' not the node address David Laight
2026-09-09 17:36 ` Waiman Long
2026-09-15 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 11:11 ` David Laight
2026-09-15 17:27 ` Waiman Long
2026-11-06 10:25 ` [tip: locking/core] locking/osq: Save the CPU number for 'prev', " tip-bot2 for David Laight
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 3/9] locking/osq_lock: Set prev_cpu=0 instead of locked=1 David Laight
2026-09-09 18:01 ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 18:52 ` David Laight
2026-09-14 12:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-14 13:10 ` David Laight
2026-09-14 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-14 13:08 ` David Laight
2026-09-15 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:14 ` David Laight
2026-09-15 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 10:20 ` David Laight
2026-09-15 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 13:55 ` David Laight
2026-09-15 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-15 17:47 ` David Laight [this message]
2026-09-16 8:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-06 10:25 ` [tip: locking/core] locking/osq: " tip-bot2 for David Laight
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 4/9] locking/osq_lock: Delete 'fast path' code from osq_unlock() David Laight
2026-09-15 14:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-16 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 5/9] locking/osq_lock: Avoid writing to node->next in the osq_lock() fast path David Laight
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 6/9] locking/osq: Use cpu number for 'next' pointer David Laight
2026-11-06 10:25 ` [tip: locking/core] locking/osq: Use CPU " tip-bot2 for David Laight
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 7/9] locking/osq: Use 'unsigned int' for next/prev/tail David Laight
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 8/9] locking/osq: inline encode_cpu() and rename decode_cpu() David Laight
2026-09-07 8:41 ` [PATCH v4 next 9/9] locking/osq_lock: Swap next<->prev and tail<->head David Laight
2026-09-07 16:08 ` [PATCH v4 next 0/9] locking/osq_lock: Optimisations to osq_lock code Linus Torvalds
2026-09-07 17:27 ` David Laight
2026-09-09 14:15 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-09 19:09 ` David Laight
2026-09-09 20:14 ` Waiman Long
2026-09-09 20:33 ` Waiman Long
2026-09-10 9:45 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 11:00 ` David Laight
2026-09-10 11:31 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 12:05 ` David Laight
2026-09-10 15:30 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-10 16:22 ` Waiman Long
2026-09-11 17:15 ` David Laight
2026-09-14 11:46 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-09-14 13:24 ` David Laight
2026-09-11 10:08 ` David Laight
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