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From: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: vDSO: Avoid call to memset() when zeroing reserved in __cvdso_getrandom_data()
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 10:39:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260917173920.GB356152@ax162> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aquyVkdYceiWdckX@zx2c4.com>

On Thu, Sep 17, 2026 at 11:26:46AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> I don't suspect this is the right change. On x86_64, this changes to
> code from:
> 
>     rep stosq
> 
> into:
> 
>     loc_2D9:
>     mov     dword ptr [rbx+rax*4+0Ch], 0
>     add     rax, 1
>     cmp     rax, 0Ch
>     jbe     short loc_2D9
> 
> Which is a lot less compact. It seems like the actual solution is for
> gcc&clang to emit this inline memset mnemonic when the platform has a
> good one, and otherwise not. But disabling optimizations for all
> platforms, because it's broken on one, seems bad.

Yes, that is certainly fair criticism. That said, this optimization
happens in the middle end as far as I can tell, so I am not sure how
much target specific knowledge is available at that point.
Additionally...

> In this case, the compiler is being smart: it identifies a loop and
> rightly turns it into memset. But if this isn't a compilation
> environment that has an outline function, it should do something else.

As I mentioned in the commit message, compilers require all environments
(hosted or not) to provide memset(), so the "doing something else" is
nothing :)

  GCC requires the freestanding environment provide memcpy, memmove,
  memset and memcmp.

I guess another option is to just include a basic memset() like the one
in lib/string.c so that it is only used if the compiler makes this sort
of transformation, while leaving all other architectures alone.

-- 
Cheers,
Nathan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-17 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-16 21:58 [PATCH] random: vDSO: Avoid call to memset() when zeroing reserved in __cvdso_getrandom_data() Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-16 22:08 ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-16 22:57   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-16 23:40     ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-17  9:26 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2026-09-17 17:39   ` Nathan Chancellor [this message]
2026-09-17 22:49     ` Nick Desaulniers
2026-09-18  8:20       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2026-09-18 12:59         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2026-09-18 19:19           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2026-09-18 21:07             ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-09-19 10:57               ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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