From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.andi.de1.cc (mail.andi.de1.cc [178.238.236.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EF42274658 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 2026 07:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=178.238.236.174 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1790406045; cv=none; b=iuCyb2DWizaeTXZfJ0ZbkbkgDb6I3yKnwH1YmHNyyjCKJqfMUQ2LzW4rAiCOmj++0biKca1z2SRC9zyt2SUs/7lBk3QLB8+rFT3tngctMsJGb/WZJyc77n/LEkfPW3MfO1MZp3B5H8FfvlRii7Kpu/tuUhEivEgogLcEBT9ZjPg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1790406045; c=relaxed/simple; bh=fkHy2QRrC5ESJ9xdBOXt6a3B4fKvvVrykffU4U22+5c=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hNXBzNkQRBPtQKIl4ml9kBQ6hf83PhisqY9znQ+Ox//A/UfVIX+Y+ndeCg8iZDzbeE1mw4cCu1G981NCp+G38KctAfe0zkih9EmIz/Tuijfc8+DJKsLMz0B/xtxZAvKeUEMwTAQakqqgTZ35uPPqRLnrt4ANhpSpxZ4ecSMsC3c= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=kemnade.info; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kemnade.info; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kemnade.info header.i=@kemnade.info header.b=jGR1xOcI; arc=none smtp.client-ip=178.238.236.174 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=kemnade.info Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kemnade.info Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kemnade.info header.i=@kemnade.info header.b="jGR1xOcI" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kemnade.info; s=20220719; h=References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=M/FcFSIa0wWtwRh7uVhb2hmR+wUAgWX3VOJzlETWQNU=; t=1790406044; x=1791615644; b=jGR1xOcItG5OzjA5fH2ZgrKZOL5E4cPzqQEze4k7yT6YhL1l1NsMORM5Hs+1VYGviMNTwaYwSfh L0u+nq/3854b5vzr1qW8ws9ILUzubE5CDAKbhkbsyC3dcD9XooJ7j0HUPYJmLLErnHomuHT9gl1xn iTXHRLjHeTM323xjXIGU8yKu706iDNhOPTCT+xfNrNIrIMO8oXA8ldSmoQ5OFsYph3F9jT6E59GEs G6h/jC81rWFwyDNj4GPqnVKIAzrPnsT1kny54kmkjKnrsr2xmvWsw9oAhOozj0iDFqozIDcEZ5NnL 4m6q7iGCp8FN3gH+cLpbrw+G2Pi/nNRx83nQ==; Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2026 09:00:26 +0200 From: Andreas Kemnade To: Brian Norris Cc: David Lin , Francesco Dolcini , Neeraj Sanjay Kale , =?UTF-8?B?VGFtw6FzIFN6xbFjcw==?= , "linux-firmware@kernel.org" , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "lukas@wunner.de" Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: mwifiex firmware mrvl/sd8987_uapsta.bin missing in the firmware git Message-ID: <20260926090026.22b00f57@kemnade.info> In-Reply-To: References: <20240605160013.6bea8d4d@aktux> <_pNnwoI9WHlb2EY635KdIv6t_goU-ZYp9Vav31jkFOCf9fCE9EeKdyCea2m-L8pgfsKIQvODlnQLhQqmWSYip9e6FFZwaJHL5-u5rdOS_kY=@protonmail.ch> <20240605174709.5043af8f@akair> <20240606101839.GA76158@francesco-nb> <20260925165814.567c9ab7@kemnade.info> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.1 (GTK 3.24.49; aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 09:27:35 -0700 Brian Norris wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 04:58:14PM +0200, Andreas Kemnade wrote: > > The License terms have in 2.3(b): > > "(b) to copy and distribute as needed, solely in connection with an > > Authorized System and for use in combination with a NXP Product," > > > > If I read it correctly, the firmware cannot life in such a repository, since > > the repository is used by different machines. Is my interpretation correct? re-establishing context again: "such a repository" means that fw packages as e.g. alpine packages and then put into the official alpine repositiory. > > I'm no expert and am not providing legal advice. > I am not either, but there are NXP people in CC hoping to say something more official or finally un-stall this issue. > I see there is some roughly similar (but a little weaker-soundging) > language in some existing linux-firmware licenses. e.g., "permitted > solely operating in conjunction with authorized products". > Often it is restricting *use* not *distribution*. > I also see the linux-firmware README only says: > > Your commit **must** contain a `Signed-Off-By:` from someone authoritative on > the licensing of the firmware in question (i.e. from within the company > that owns the code). > > I take that to mean that linux-firmware doesn't really try to own the > licensing rules. They defer to the company that owns the IP. > There are rules what licenses might forbid and what not in LICENSE-CRITERIA.md. At least submitting it to the firmware repo (so from NXP sight a third party repo) sounds like some permission for distribution. Regards, Andreas