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Wed, 14 Oct 2026 12:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2026 21:53:54 +0200 From: Johannes Weiner To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Cc: Chris Li , Nhat Pham , Baoquan He , Kairui Song , Michal Hocko , Roman Gushchin , Shakeel Butt , Yosry Ahmed , Muchun Song , Kemeng Shi , Barry Song , YoungJun Park , Chengming Zhou , "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" , "Liam R. 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I don't think we > >>> should use that time slot for swap alignment. > >>> > >>> We should find a time slot more friendly to Asia. > >> > >> Any time slot would have that kind of problem. We're spread out across > >> the globe. > >> > >> Let's just use a standardized time slot we have for MM alignment sessions. > > > > There are more swap maintainers in Asia than in the US + Europe, at > > least based on the maintainer file. Please be more inclusive. If the > > alignment is done without key stakeholders, it miss the point. > > > > Sigh, we can't even align on a time slot. > > > > In that case, let's keep discussing on the mailing list. At least it > > is accessible to every one. > > Looking at the mailing list, that approach doesn't seem to work. > > Finding a time slot that makes US, Europe and Asia happy is ... tricky. > > 1 AM is certainly unpleasant. > > US vs. Asia is also tricky, but doable. > > China 8AM vs. US West Coast 5PM? > > China 9AM vs. US West Coast 6PM? > > (Europe is 2AM vs. 3AM, who besides me from Europe would join?) Either slot works for me. 8pm/9pm on US Eastern. Apologize as well for the late response. Travel week followed by post-travel sick week...