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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"K Prateek Nayak" <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"John Ogness" <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	"Shrikanth Hegde" <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	"luca abeni" <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>,
	"Yuri Andriaccio" <yurand2000@gmail.com>,
	"Yuri Andriaccio" <yuri.andriaccio@santannapisa.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Remove CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 20:30:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261105193010.tXUDDu2w@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auy6nyTUuHBlgrV_@slm.duckdns.org>

On 2026-11-05 07:19:27 [-1000], Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Sebastian.
Hi Tejun,

> 
> I'm not against it but wonder whether it'd be useful to do it more gradually
> so that people can pipe up if they depend on it. ie. Mark it deprecated and
> put it behind EXPORT for a bit and then BROKEN before actual removal.

I would be surprised if this is actually used especially since it is
cg-v1 and v2 is the default/ used by everyone (?). 

This depended on !PREEMPT_RT in the RT queue. People asked if this can
be enabled because it looked useful/ for their use case. I researched
why it was like this and dropped that restriction. People then asked if
it is broken on RT because it is now working properly. I have never been
told _what_ is broken or *why* because nobody came back.
Later I've been told (there was an attempt to explain it to me, it was
late in the morning) and if I piece it properly together then, it could
work in UP environment but on SMP the accounting is wrong and therefore
the runtime/ preemption is not working as it should.

I didn't add this to the commit description because I would classify
this as hearsay and we do facts here. PeterZ might know more.
From what I know, people who asked for it either have a different
solution or eyeball HCBS.

> Thanks.

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-05 16:47 [PATCH] sched: Remove CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-11-05 17:19 ` Tejun Heo
2026-11-05 19:30   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-11-06 10:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-06 11:04       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-11-06 11:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-06 11:21           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-11-06 11:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-11-06 11:30               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-11-07  2:32                 ` Qais Yousef

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