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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	justinstitt@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] devres: Provide kmalloc_obj*-style API for devm_kmalloc
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 09:09:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202611120905.DF88D9849@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgYBrhvo2NAG_Ja-0ovPf=xO20Gcopv9Yrr1u=QVxECZw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 08:34:13AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2026 at 02:13, Alejandro Colomar
> <alx+linux-hardening@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > I suggest removing kmalloc_obj() entirely, and using kmalloc_objs()
> > always, with a second argument of 1 when we want a single object.  This
> > would remove the risk of that typo.
> >
> > I also suggest having default arguments without variadic macros.  The
> > way to do that is using empty arguments.  Linus complained that it hurts
> > his eyes, but it really makes these macros much safer.
> 
> No to both. These are both "make the code worse to catch errors that
> the compiler should have been able to catch anyway".
> 
> If you *really* want to catch them, make "gfp_t" be a 'struct'. That
> way even compilers without things like the restricted types that
> sparse has will catch at least that one.
> 
> I did that many many years (argh, decades - I'm old) ago to catch all
> the 'pte_t' etc issues when rewriting the MM layer, and it works very
> well.
> 
> It's going to be somewhat painful, but ti might be worth it. People
> who only use GFP_xyz flags to pass them around wouldn't notice.

One thing Justin was poking at was adding a "strict" mode to typedef
that gets us a new native type that follows all the same rules as its
underlying type, but refuses implicit casting. That way you get stuff
like gfp_t or pid_t that still works sanely but refuses to take values
from non-matching types (i.e. it would catch this case). It's handy for
the Overflow Behavior Type work too (for similar reasons). e.g.:

typedef __distinct unsigned int pid_t;

or something like that. Then you don't need the accessors like we have
for the struct-style wrappers.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 22:32 [PATCH 0/2] devres: Provide kmalloc_obj*-style API for devm_kmalloc Kees Cook
2026-09-14 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Move default_gfp() into gfp_types.h Kees Cook
2026-09-15  2:13   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-15  6:56   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-06 15:42   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-14 22:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] devres: Provide kmalloc_obj*-style API for devm_kmalloc Kees Cook
2026-10-05 21:35   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-10-06  0:52     ` Kees Cook
2026-10-06 21:55   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-11-12  0:40   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-11-12 10:12     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-12 16:34       ` Linus Torvalds
2026-11-12 17:09         ` Kees Cook [this message]
2026-11-12 17:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2026-11-12 18:22             ` Justin Stitt
2026-11-12 17:32         ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-12 17:47           ` Linus Torvalds

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