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From: "Bryan J. Smith" <thebs413@yahoo.com>
To: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
	Ralf Gross <Ralf-Lists@ralfgross.de>
Cc: linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Re: mkfs options for a 16x hw raid5 and xfs (mostly large files)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:38:33 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <216020.40502.qm@web32910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709261258180.24646@p34.internal.lan>

Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
> I wonder where the bottleneck lies.

The microcontroller.

Listen, for the last time, hardware RAID is _not_ for non-blocking
I/O.  Hardware RAID is for in-line XOR streaming off-load, so it
doesn't tie up a system interconnect (which isn't an ideal use for
it).

A hardware RAID card is when you have other things going on in your
interconnect that you don't want the parity LOAD-XOR-STOR to take
away from what it could be using for the service.

It will _never_ have the "raw performance" of OS optimized software
RAID.  At the same time, OS optimized software RAID's impact on the
system interconnect is one of those "unmeasurable" details _unless_
you actually benchmark your application.

I have repeatedly had issues with elementary UDP/IP NFS performance
when the PIO of software RAID is hogging the system interconnect. 
Same deal for large numbers of large database record commits.


-- 
Bryan J. Smith   Professional, Technical Annoyance
b.j.smith@ieee.org    http://thebs413.blogspot.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-26 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-23  9:38 mkfs options for a 16x hw raid5 and xfs (mostly large files) Ralf Gross
2007-09-23 12:56 ` Peter Grandi
2007-09-26 14:54   ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-26 16:27     ` [UNSURE] " Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 16:54       ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-26 16:59         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 17:38           ` Bryan J. Smith [this message]
2007-09-26 17:41             ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 17:55               ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-26 17:13         ` [UNSURE] " Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-26 17:27           ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 17:35             ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-26 17:37               ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 17:38                 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 17:49                 ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-27 15:22     ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-24 17:31 ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-24 18:01   ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-24 20:39     ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-24 20:43       ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-24 21:33         ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-24 21:36           ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-24 21:52             ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-25 12:35               ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-25 12:50                 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-25 13:44                   ` Bryan J Smith
2007-09-25 12:57                 ` KELEMEN Peter
2007-09-25 13:49                   ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-25 14:08                     ` Bryan J Smith
2007-09-25 16:07                       ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-25 16:28                         ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-25 17:25                           ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-25 17:41                             ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-25 19:13                               ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-25 20:23                                 ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-25 16:48                         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-25 18:00                           ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-25 18:33                             ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-25 23:38                             ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26  8:23                               ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-26  8:42                                 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26  8:49                                   ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-26  9:52                                     ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 15:03                                       ` Bryan J Smith
2007-09-26 15:15                                         ` Ralf Gross
2007-09-26 17:08                                           ` Bryan J. Smith
2007-09-26 16:24                                         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-09-26 17:11                                           ` Bryan J. Smith

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