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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Giraldeau, Francis" <francis.giraldeau@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched: Fix sched_wakeup tracepoint
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:36:54 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <216035439.4869.1433507814799.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1506051430470.7723@nanos>

----- On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Thomas Gleixner tglx@linutronix.de wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 01:41:49PM +0200, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> > Commit 317f394160e9 "sched: Move the second half of ttwu() to the remote cpu"
>> > moves ttwu_do_wakeup() to an IPI handler context on the remote CPU for
>> > remote wakeups. This commit appeared upstream in Linux v3.0.
>> > 
>> > Unfortunately, ttwu_do_wakeup() happens to contain the "sched_wakeup"
>> > tracepoint. Analyzing wakup latencies depends on getting the wakeup
>> > chain right: which process is the waker, which is the wakee. Moving this
>> > instrumention outside of the waker context prevents trace analysis tools
>> > from getting the waker pid, either through "current" in the tracepoint
>> > probe, or by deducing it using other scheduler events based on the CPU
>> > executing the tracepoint.
>> > 
>> > Another side-effect of moving this instrumentation to the scheduler ipi
>> > is that the delay during which the wakeup is sitting in the pending
>> > queue is not accounted for when calculating wakeup latency.
>> > 
>> > Therefore, move the sched_wakeup instrumentation back to the waker
>> > context to fix those two shortcomings.
>> 
>> What do you consider wakeup-latency? I don't see how moving the
>> tracepoint into the caller will magically account the queue time.
> 
> Well, the point of wakeup is when the wakee calls wakeup. If the trace

^ I think you actually mean "when the waker calls wakeup".

> point is in the IPI then you account the time between the wakeup and
> the actuall handling in the IPI to the wakee instead of accounting it
> to the time between wakeup and sched switch.
> 

Thanks,

Mathieu

> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-05 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-05 11:41 [RFC PATCH] sched: Fix sched_wakeup tracepoint Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-06-05 12:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05 12:32   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-06-05 12:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05 13:23       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-06-06 12:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-07 10:20           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-06-08 17:27             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-09  9:13               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-09 18:48                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-06-17 18:23                 ` Cong Wang
2015-06-17 18:47                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-08-03 17:06                 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Introduce the 'trace_sched_waking' tracepoint tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-07 10:20           ` [RFC PATCH] sched: Fix sched_wakeup tracepoint Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-06-08  6:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-09  5:53           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-06-05 12:32   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-05 12:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2015-06-05 12:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 16:54       ` Steven Rostedt

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