From: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
linmiaohe@huawei.com, nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, tujinjiang@huawei.com,
mgorman@techsingularity.net, chengkaitao@kylinos.cn,
muchun.song@linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: skip folios containing hwpoisoned pages
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 21:31:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23d3756c-1a87-402d-80b4-c838dfc29f4d@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc1b3255-99f7-49c8-bb52-bada6df80f72@kernel.org>
在 2026/10/20 21:07, David Hildenbrand (Arm) 写道:
> On 10/20/26 13:27, Kaitao Cheng wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在 2026/10/11 21:14, Huang, Ying 写道:
>>> Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, and nothing here replaces copy_mc. Two things the check adds
>>>> while that work is pending: on archs without copy_mc the plain copy
>>>> does not fail, it consumes the poison - the same poison consumption
>>>> commit 841a8bfcbad9 ("mm: prevent poison consumption when splitting
>>>> THP") refused to risk on the split path, at your suggestion; and the
>>>> refusal happens before the copy is attempted at all, while copy_mc
>>>> recovers only during the read. The check and copy_mc compose.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is it good to implement the trick in copy_mc_user_highpage() and
>>> copy_mc_highpage() if the macro copy_mc_to_kernel is undefined?
>>
>> On architectures with hardware error correction and exception recovery
>> support, accessing faulty memory automatically triggers an exception,
>> which itself guarantees atomicity.
>>
>> On architectures without such support, even if we implement this logic
>> in copy_mc_user_highpage() and copy_mc_highpage(), checking the hwpoison
>> flag and copying the data remain two separate operations. They cannot
>> be performed atomically, so there is still a race window between them,
>> however small.
>
> Yes. And you need proper architecture support to fix it?
It does require architecture support, but that doesn't seem practical, haha.
>> Moving the hwpoison check after the copy might address this issue.
>> Is there anything wrong with my understanding?
>
> Will architectures that are not prepared for copy_mc_user_highpage() not simply
> crash if they trigger an MCE during an access?
>
Do we need to check both before and after the copy? This feels a bit
redundant, and I'm not sure whether such a small race window warrants
an additional check.
--
Thanks
Kaitao Cheng
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-20 13:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-28 10:58 [PATCH 0/2] mm: don't migrate folios containing hwpoisoned pages Yuanhe Shu
2026-09-28 10:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: skip " Yuanhe Shu
2026-09-28 12:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-29 3:41 ` Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-11 13:14 ` Huang, Ying
2026-10-20 7:16 ` Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-20 7:52 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-20 11:27 ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-20 13:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-20 13:31 ` Kaitao Cheng [this message]
2026-10-20 13:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-10 8:35 ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-09-28 10:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/migrate: refuse to migrate " Yuanhe Shu
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