From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>, Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>
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Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 00/12] mldev: introduce machine learning device library
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 12:11:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2491874.vBoWY3egPC@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALBAE1OFk7j57qefVYaaySi0zSrJR0-BSAEeAmTU2bwVtJLErQ@mail.gmail.com>
25/01/2023 20:01, Jerin Jacob:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:50 PM Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> > 14/11/2022 13:02, jerinj@marvell.com:
> > > ML Model: An ML model is an algorithm trained over a dataset. A model consists of
> > > procedure/algorithm and data/pattern required to make predictions on live data.
> > > Once the model is created and trained outside of the DPDK scope, the model can be loaded
> > > via rte_ml_model_load() and then start it using rte_ml_model_start() API.
> > > The rte_ml_model_params_update() can be used to update the model parameters such as weight
> > > and bias without unloading the model using rte_ml_model_unload().
> >
> > The fact that the model is prepared outside means the model format is free
> > and probably different per mldev driver.
> > I think it is OK but it requires a lot of documentation effort to explain
> > how to bind the model and its parameters with the DPDK API.
> > Also we may need to pass some metadata from the model builder
> > to the inference engine in order to enable optimizations prepared in the model.
> > And the other way, we may need inference capabilities in order to generate
> > an optimized model which can run in the inference engine.
>
> The base API specification kept absolute minimum. Currently, weight and biases
> parameters updated through rte_ml_model_params_update(). It can be extended
> when there are drivers supports it or if you have any specific
> parameter you would like to add
> it in rte_ml_model_params_update().
This function is
int rte_ml_model_params_update(int16_t dev_id, int16_t model_id, void *buffer);
How are we supposed to provide separate parameters in this void* ?
> Other metadata data like batch, shapes, formats queried using rte_ml_io_info().
Copying:
+/** Input and output data information structure
+ *
+ * Specifies the type and shape of input and output data.
+ */
+struct rte_ml_io_info {
+ char name[RTE_ML_STR_MAX];
+ /**< Name of data */
+ struct rte_ml_io_shape shape;
+ /**< Shape of data */
+ enum rte_ml_io_type qtype;
+ /**< Type of quantized data */
+ enum rte_ml_io_type dtype;
+ /**< Type of de-quantized data */
+};
Is it the right place to notify the app that some model optimizations
are supported? (example: merge some operations in the graph)
> > [...]
> > > Typical application utilisation of the ML API will follow the following
> > > programming flow.
> > >
> > > - rte_ml_dev_configure()
> > > - rte_ml_dev_queue_pair_setup()
> > > - rte_ml_model_load()
> > > - rte_ml_model_start()
> > > - rte_ml_model_info()
> > > - rte_ml_dev_start()
> > > - rte_ml_enqueue_burst()
> > > - rte_ml_dequeue_burst()
> > > - rte_ml_model_stop()
> > > - rte_ml_model_unload()
> > > - rte_ml_dev_stop()
> > > - rte_ml_dev_close()
> >
> > Where is parameters update in this flow?
>
> Added the mandatory APIs in the top level flow doc.
> rte_ml_model_params_update() used to update the parameters.
The question is "where" should it be done?
Before/after start?
> > Should we update all parameters at once or can it be done more fine-grain?
>
> Currently, rte_ml_model_params_update() can be used to update weight
> and bias via buffer when device is
> in stop state and without unloading the model.
The question is "can we update a single parameter"?
And how?
> > Question about the memory used by mldev:
> > Can we manage where the memory is allocated (host, device, mix, etc)?
>
> Just passing buffer pointers now like other subsystem.
> Other EAL infra service can take care of the locality of memory as it
> is not specific to ML dev.
I was thinking about memory allocation required by the inference engine.
How to specify where to allocate? Is it just hardcoded in the driver?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-26 11:12 UTC|newest]
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2022-08-03 13:28 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/1] mldev: introduce machine learning device library jerinj
2022-08-03 13:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/1] " jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 00/12] " jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 01/12] " jerinj
2023-02-01 13:34 ` Shivah Shankar Shankar Narayan Rao
2023-02-03 0:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-02-03 8:42 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-03 17:33 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-02-03 20:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-03 20:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-02-03 20:49 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-05 23:41 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-02-03 10:01 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-03 0:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-02-03 10:04 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-03 0:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-02-03 10:03 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-02 5:26 ` Shivah Shankar Shankar Narayan Rao
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 02/12] mldev: add PMD functions for ML device jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 03/12] mldev: support device handling functions jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 04/12] mldev: support device queue-pair setup jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 05/12] mldev: support handling ML models jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 06/12] mldev: support input and output data handling jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 07/12] mldev: support op pool and its operations jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 08/12] mldev: support inference enqueue and dequeue jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 09/12] mldev: support device statistics jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 10/12] mldev: support device extended statistics jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 11/12] mldev: support to retrieve error information jerinj
2022-11-14 12:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 12/12] mldev: support to get debug info and test device jerinj
2023-01-25 14:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 00/12] mldev: introduce machine learning device library Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-25 19:01 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-26 11:11 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2023-01-27 2:33 ` [EXT] " Shivah Shankar Shankar Narayan Rao
2023-01-27 4:29 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-27 11:34 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-28 11:27 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01 16:57 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 17:33 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/12] " jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 02/12] mldev: support PMD functions for ML device jerinj
2023-02-06 21:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-02-06 22:17 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-07 5:16 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/12] mldev: support ML device handling functions jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/12] mldev: support ML device queue-pair setup jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/12] mldev: support handling ML models jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/12] mldev: support input and output data handling jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/12] mldev: support ML op pool and ops jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/12] mldev: support inference enqueue and dequeue jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/12] mldev: support device statistics jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/12] mldev: support device extended statistics jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 11/12] mldev: support to retrieve error information jerinj
2023-02-06 20:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 12/12] mldev: support to get debug info and test device jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 00/12] mldev: introduce machine learning device library jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 01/12] " jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 02/12] mldev: support PMD functions for ML device jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 03/12] mldev: support ML device handling functions jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 04/12] mldev: support ML device queue-pair setup jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 05/12] mldev: support handling ML models jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 06/12] mldev: support input and output data handling jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 07/12] mldev: support ML op pool and ops jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 08/12] mldev: support inference enqueue and dequeue jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 09/12] mldev: support device statistics jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 10/12] mldev: support device extended statistics jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 11/12] mldev: support to retrieve error information jerinj
2023-02-07 15:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 12/12] mldev: support to get debug info and test device jerinj
2023-02-15 12:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 00/12] mldev: introduce machine learning device library Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-15 17:03 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-03-09 17:33 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-08-03 15:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/1] " Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-16 13:13 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-08-16 15:45 ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-16 16:34 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-08-17 14:53 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-25 13:47 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-25 13:54 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-08-17 5:37 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-08-17 6:58 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-25 13:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
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