All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, manfred@colorfullife.com,
	boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com,
	david.oberhollenzer@sigma-star.at
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Add flight recorder to MTDRAM
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 11:41:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <252100234.Y1JYG21Gen@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171206085039.27164-1-dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>

Dirk, Manfred,

Am Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017, 09:50:34 CET schrieb Dirk Behme:
> From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The series adds a flight recorder to MTDRAM.

Thanks a lot for sharing your tool, this is highly appreciated.

> This allows very efficient power fail testing:
> From the flight recorder output, it is possible to recreate every image
> that might have existed between the start of the recording and the end.
> 
> Obviously, a user space tool is required, it is attached as the last
> mail in the series.

So, to understand this approach better I need to recap.
The "flight recorder" logs every single MTD operation (READ, ERASE, PROGRAM) 
to a file while the MTD is under load, right?

Then you take the log, replay it to a _file_ but instead of replaying
all N MTD operations only N - X operations are replayed?
The output file is later written back to MTDRAM to check how much UBIFS likes 
it?

While having such a tool would be awesome, we have to be very sure that it 
behaves correctly.
Yesterday I spent almost the whole night with staring at some of Manfred's 
images and I'm not sure whether what I see makes sense or can actually happen
on a real NAND or NOR flash. But I'm still investigating.

> Patches:
> 
> 0001-mtdram-expose-write-size-and-writebuf-size-as-module:
> 	An initial cleanup: write_size and writebuf_size are
> 	hardcoded in the source code.
> 	Convert that to module parameters.

MTDRAM is a special purpose MTD simulator, I'm not so sure whether it is a 
good idea to turn it into a NAND-alike zombie.

I said this already some time before, Boris and I are in general unhappy with 
the current MTD simulator zoo in MTD.
But fixing this is not your job, we have to. :-)

Thanks,
//richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-06 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-06  8:50 [PATCH 0/5] Add flight recorder to MTDRAM Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] mtdram: expose write size and writebuf size as module parameters Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] mtdram: Add flight recorder Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] mtdram: Allow to enable/disable flight recorder mode at runtime Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] mtdram: Convert the flight recorder to a ring buffer Dirk Behme
2017-12-06  8:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] mtdram flight recorder: Add checksums Dirk Behme
2017-12-06 10:41 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2017-12-06 19:44   ` [PATCH 0/5] Add flight recorder to MTDRAM Manfred Spraul
2017-12-06 19:59     ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-06 20:57       ` Richard Weinberger
2017-12-07 16:06         ` Manfred Spraul

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=252100234.Y1JYG21Gen@blindfold \
    --to=richard@nod.at \
    --cc=boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com \
    --cc=david.oberhollenzer@sigma-star.at \
    --cc=dirk.behme@de.bosch.com \
    --cc=linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=manfred@colorfullife.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.