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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/20/26 10:36, Jiri Kosina wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2026, Theodore Tso wrote: > >> > When a submitter uses LLMs to generate a patch, it is reasonable for >> > maintainers and reviewers to ask them to use shashiko to find problems >> > before sending it to us. Asking for a shashkiko run before submitting >> > patches could become part of the patch submitting process. >> > >> > How about updating the submitting patches document to add a section on >> > this with instructions on how to run it? >> > >> > This shifts the responsibility to run shashiko to people using LLMs. >> >> If people are using LLM's to generate a patch, it would be useful if >> we can make it super easy for LLM's to call out to Sashiko as an >> sub-agent. > > Yeah, but that pretty much brings us back to the potentially problematic > "free tokens for anybody developing out-of-tree / proprietary kernel code" > territory again. I assumed Ted meant to call out to a local sashiko (as Roman explained, using the LLM itself), not the hosted one?