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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@ozlabs.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, keyrings@linux-nfs.org,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dmitry.kasatkin@intel.com,
	zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com,
	alan.cox@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 21/21] MODSIGN: Apply signature checking to modules on module load [ver #3]
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:43:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2657.1323456206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87boriouwa.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

Rusty Russell <rusty@ozlabs.org> wrote:

> And adds a great deal of code in a supposedly security-sensitive path to
> achieve it.
> 
> How about simply append a signature to the module?  That'd be about 20 lines
> of code to carefully check the bounds of the module to figure out where the
> signature is.  You could even allow multiple signatures, then have one for
> stripped, and one for non-stripped versions.

A big chunk of the code is dealing with the cryptographic bits - and you need
those anyway - and if it's done right it can be shared with other things
(eCryptfs for example; maybe CIFS from what Steve French said) and auxiliary
keys can be stored in places other than the kernel (the TPM for example).

> Sure, you now need to re-append that after stripping, but that's not the
> kernel's problem.

You may also have to remove the signature before passing it to any binutils
tool lest it malfunction on the trailer - and would you also have to modify
insmod and modprobe?  I suspect they parse the ELF to find out about parameters
and things.

I've found that rpmbuild and mkinitrd alter the module files at various times,
so you'd need a bunch of signatures, one for each (may just be two, but I can't
guarantee that).  This means the kernel build process needs to know what
transformations are going to be applied to a module - something that has
changed occasionally within the distribution I use and may vary between
distributions (or even just someone building for themselves).

David

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-09 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-02 18:42 [RFC][PATCH 00/21] Crypto keys and module signing [ver #3] David Howells
2011-12-02 18:42 ` [PATCH 01/21] MPILIB: Export some more symbols " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:42 ` [PATCH 02/21] MPILIB: Add a missing ENOMEM check " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:43 ` [PATCH 03/21] KEYS: Permit key_serial() to be called with a const key pointer " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:43 ` [PATCH 04/21] KEYS: Move the key config into security/keys/Kconfig " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:43 ` [PATCH 05/21] KEYS: Announce key type (un)registration " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:43 ` [PATCH 06/21] KEYS: Reorganise keys Makefile " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:43 ` [PATCH 07/21] KEYS: Create a key type that can be used for general cryptographic operations " David Howells
2012-01-16 12:53   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-01-17 15:32     ` David Howells
2012-01-18 10:56       ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2011-12-02 18:44 ` [PATCH 08/21] KEYS: Add signature verification facility " David Howells
2012-01-18 11:20   ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-01-18 12:26     ` David Howells
2012-01-18 13:26       ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-01-18 15:13         ` David Howells
2012-01-18 15:20           ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-01-18 15:20             ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-01-18 19:59             ` David Howells
2012-01-20  1:52               ` Herbert Xu
2012-01-20  1:52                 ` Herbert Xu
2011-12-02 18:44 ` [PATCH 09/21] KEYS: Asymmetric public-key algorithm crypto key subtype " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:44 ` [PATCH 10/21] KEYS: DSA signature verification algorithm " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:44 ` [PATCH 11/21] KEYS: RSA " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:44 ` [PATCH 12/21] PGPLIB: PGP definitions (RFC 4880) " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:45 ` [PATCH 13/21] PGPLIB: Basic packet parser " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:45 ` [PATCH 14/21] PGPLIB: Signature " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:45 ` [PATCH 15/21] KEYS: PGP data " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:45 ` [PATCH 16/21] KEYS: PGP-based public key signature verification " David Howells
2012-01-18 11:36   ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-01-18 12:49     ` David Howells
2012-01-18 13:34       ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2012-01-18 13:34         ` Kasatkin, Dmitry
2011-12-02 18:46 ` [PATCH 17/21] KEYS: PGP format signature parser " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:46 ` [PATCH 18/21] KEYS: Provide a function to load keys from a PGP keyring blob " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:46 ` [PATCH 19/21] MODSIGN: Add indications of module ELF types " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:46 ` [PATCH 20/21] MODSIGN: Module ELF verifier " David Howells
2011-12-02 18:46 ` [PATCH 21/21] MODSIGN: Apply signature checking to modules on module load " David Howells
2011-12-09 11:18   ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-09 18:43     ` David Howells [this message]
2011-12-10  7:01       ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 14:08         ` David Howells
2011-12-11  4:57           ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12  1:21             ` David Howells
2011-12-12  9:09               ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12 16:11                 ` David Howells
2011-12-13  2:15                   ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  0:14                     ` David Howells
2011-12-16  0:41                       ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 18:37         ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-12-11  4:59           ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-08 22:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/21] Crypto keys and module signing " Mimi Zohar

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