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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs: ubifs: Add i_version support
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:38:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2829618.duEmFAOaoQ@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170912103900.8629-1-s.hauer@pengutronix.de>

Sascha,

Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017, 12:39:00 CEST schrieb Sascha Hauer:
> This adds i_version support to UBIFS. The inodes i_version is used by
> IMA to detect changes to an inode and thus necessary to support IMA on
> UBIFS. The i_version is stored in the previously unused space in the
> UBIFS inode struct. Unlike in ext4 i_version support is unconditionally
> enabled in UBIFS as I saw no reason to make it optional.

But we need a new UBIFS feature flag to indicate that this filesystem has 
valid i_version fields.

> Signed-off-by: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
> ---
>  fs/ubifs/dir.c         | 30 +++++++++++++++++++-----------
>  fs/ubifs/file.c        |  5 +++++
>  fs/ubifs/journal.c     |  3 ++-
>  fs/ubifs/super.c       |  2 ++
>  fs/ubifs/ubifs-media.h |  3 ++-
>  5 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> 
> I did this patch exclusively to support IMA on UBIFS. IMA uses the inode's
> i_version field to detect changes on inodes. A proper i_version support
> needs to make the i_version persistent on disk, although IMA itself doesn't
> need a persistent i_version. Last time an earlier version of this patch
> 
> was sent by Oleksij Rempel Richard said:
> > What about making i_version persistent?
> > We still have some empty fields in UBIFS' inode data structure.
> > But first we have to be very sure that we need it.
> 
> This patch exactly implements this suggestion, leaving the question if we
> really need it. I added the IMA maintainers to Cc in the hope that Mimi or
> Dmitry can give a good reason why there's no alternative to i_version for
> IMA.

Yes, it would be good to know more about the user, IMA. Does IMA store the 
version somewhere?
Are there requirements on ordering? i.e. What if UBIFS faces a power-cut
and the UBIFS i_version is behind IMA's version.
Maybe we have to teach UBIFS to update an inode less lazy that it currently 
does...

Thanks,
//richard

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-12 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-12 10:39 [PATCH] fs: ubifs: Add i_version support Sascha Hauer
2017-09-12 12:38 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2017-09-12 13:46   ` Sascha Hauer
2017-09-12 13:57     ` Richard Weinberger
2017-09-12 14:23       ` Sascha Hauer
2017-09-12 14:50         ` Richard Weinberger

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