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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: VDR User <user.vdr@gmail.com>
Cc: Adam Lee <adam.lee@canonical.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
	"open list:USB VIDEO CLASS" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "V4L/DVB: uvc: Enable USB autosuspend by default on uvcvideo"
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:49:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2929853.aH7hYkoiDo@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA7C2qi_1yYeSYbRBFhaLLwEmFf0k4G52jwvXVk0yLpNFFPCJA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Tuesday 24 September 2013 08:55:19 VDR User wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > I've discussed this issue during LPC last week, and I still believe we
> > should enable auto-suspend. The feature really saves power, without it my
> > C910 Logitech webcam gets hot even when unused.
> > 
> > If we disable auto-suspend by default and enable it from userspace only a
> > handful of devices will get auto-suspended. Unless we can get distros to
> > automatically test auto-suspend on unknown webcam models and report the
> > results to update a central data base (which would grow much bigger than a
> > quirks list in the driver in my opinion), disabling auto-suspend would be
> > a serious regression.
> 
> Setting defaults which knowingly cause problems is a horrible idea. Just
> because it works for you and your setup is no justification to force it upon
> everyone. This is certainly a feature that, if wanted, can be enabled by the
> user.

It's not just my setup, auto-suspend works for the vast majority of webcams. 
It has been enabled three years ago, with a report that Fedora had enabled it 
by carrying a kernel patch for a while, without any user complaint.

> I don't see any reasonable argument against letting the user enable it if
> he/she wants it.

USB autosuspend is an important power saving feature. I would be fine with 
enabling it in userspace if we could find a reasonable, cross-distro way to 
create, maintain and distribute the list of devices that support USB 
autosuspend properly.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-30 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-24  7:57 [PATCH] Revert "V4L/DVB: uvc: Enable USB autosuspend by default on uvcvideo" adam.lee
2013-04-24  9:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-04-25  6:33   ` Adam Lee
2013-06-13  9:56     ` Adam Lee
2013-09-24 11:34       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-24 15:58         ` VDR User
     [not found]         ` <CAA7C2qi_1yYeSYbRBFhaLLwEmFf0k4G52jwvXVk0yLpNFFPCJA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-30 14:49           ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]

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