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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, hverkuil@xs4all.nl, k.debski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4.1 3/3] v4l: Add V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_SOF and use it
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:25:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2952851.Yc6rv3OV6R@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130828163919.GG2835@valkosipuli.retiisi.org.uk>

Hi Sakari,

On Wednesday 28 August 2013 19:39:19 Sakari Ailus wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 06:14:44PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> ...
> 
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_queue.c
> > > > > b/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_queue.c index cd962be..0d80512 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_queue.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_queue.c
> > > > > @@ -149,7 +149,8 @@ int uvc_queue_init(struct uvc_video_queue
> > > > > *queue, enum v4l2_buf_type type,
> > > > >  	queue->queue.buf_struct_size = sizeof(struct uvc_buffer);
> > > > >  	queue->queue.ops = &uvc_queue_qops;
> > > > >  	queue->queue.mem_ops = &vb2_vmalloc_memops;
> > > > > -	queue->queue.timestamp_type = V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_MONOTONIC;
> > > > > +	queue->queue.timestamp_type = V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_MONOTONIC
> > > > > +		| V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_SOF;
> > > > >  	ret = vb2_queue_init(&queue->queue);
> > > > >  	if (ret)
> > > > >  		return ret;
> > > > > diff --git a/include/media/videobuf2-core.h
> > > > > b/include/media/videobuf2-core.h index 6781258..033efc7 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/media/videobuf2-core.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/media/videobuf2-core.h
> > > > > @@ -307,6 +307,7 @@ struct v4l2_fh;
> > > > > 
> > > > >   * @buf_struct_size: size of the driver-specific buffer structure;
> > > > >   *		"0" indicates the driver doesn't want to use a custom buffer
> > > > >   *		structure type, so sizeof(struct vb2_buffer) will is used
> > > > > 
> > > > > + * @timestamp_type: Timestamp flags; V4L2_BUF_FLAGS_TIMESTAMP_*
> > > > > 
> > > > >   * @gfp_flags:	additional gfp flags used when allocating the
> > > > >   buffers.
> > > > >   *		Typically this is 0, but it may be e.g. GFP_DMA or 
__GFP_DMA32
> > > > >   *		to force the buffer allocation to a specific memory zone.
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h index 691077d..c57765e 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> > > > > @@ -695,6 +695,16 @@ struct v4l2_buffer {
> > > > > 
> > > > >  #define V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_UNKNOWN		0x00000000
> > > > >  #define V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_MONOTONIC	0x00002000
> > > > >  #define V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_COPY		0x00004000
> > > > > 
> > > > > +/*
> > > > > + * Timestamp taken once the first pixel is received (or
> > > > > transmitted).
> > > > > + * If the flag is not set the buffer timestamp is taken at the end
> > > > > of
> > > > > + * the frame. This is not a timestamp type.
> > > > 
> > > > UVC devices timestamp frames when the frame is captured, not when the
> > > > first pixel is transmitted.
> > > 
> > > I.e. we shouldn't set the SOF flag? "When the frame is captured" doesn't
> > > say much, or almost anything in terms of *when*. The frames have
> > > exposure time and rolling shutter makes a difference, too.
> > 
> > The UVC 1.1 specification defines the timestamp as
> > 
> > "The source clock time in native deviceclock units when the raw frame
> > capture begins."
> > 
> > What devices do in practice may differ :-)
> 
> I think that this should mean start-of-frame - exposure time. I'd really
> wonder if any practical implementation does that however.

It's start-of-frame - exposure time - internal delays (UVC webcams are 
supposed to report their internal delay value as well).

> What's your suggestion; should we use the SOF flag for this or do you prefer
> the end-of-frame timestamp instead? I think it'd be quite nice for drivers
> to know which one is which without having to guess, and based on the above
> start-of-frame comes as close to that definition as is meaningful.

SOF is better than EOF. Do we need a start-of-capture flag, or could we 
document SOF as meaning start-of-capture or start-of-reception depending on 
what the device can do ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-28 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-25 23:02 [PATCH v4 0/3] Fix buffer timestamp documentation Sakari Ailus
2013-08-25 23:02 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] v4l: Document timestamp behaviour to correspond to reality Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 12:13   ` Hans Verkuil
2013-08-28 15:04     ` Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 15:23     ` [PATCH v4.1 " Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 15:19       ` Hans Verkuil
2013-08-25 23:02 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] v4l: Use full 32 bits for buffer flags Sakari Ailus
2013-08-25 23:02 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] v4l: Add V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_SOF and use it Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 12:19   ` Hans Verkuil
2013-08-28 15:24     ` [PATCH v4.1 " Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 15:30       ` Hans Verkuil
2013-08-28 16:06         ` Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 16:03       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-28 16:09         ` Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 16:14           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-28 16:39             ` Sakari Ailus
2013-08-28 23:25               ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2013-08-29 11:33                 ` Sakari Ailus
2013-08-30 11:31                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-30 16:08                     ` Sakari Ailus
2013-08-31 21:43                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-05 16:31                         ` Sakari Ailus
2013-09-06 11:05                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-12-12 12:37                             ` Hans Verkuil
2014-01-31 15:39                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-01-31 15:45                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2014-01-31 16:42                                   ` Sakari Ailus
2014-01-31 17:21                                     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-01  9:06                                       ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-02  9:27                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-05  8:13                                         ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-07 22:52                                         ` [PATCH v4.2 3/4] v4l: Add timestamp source flags, mask and document them Sakari Ailus
2014-02-07 22:52                                           ` [PATCH v4.2 4/4] v4l: Document timestamp buffer flag behaviour Sakari Ailus
2014-02-08 12:32                                             ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-08 17:30                                               ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-10  9:49                                           ` [PATCH v4.2 3/4] v4l: Add timestamp source flags, mask and document them Hans Verkuil
2014-02-10 10:24                                             ` Sakari Ailus

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