From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.manjaro.org (mail.manjaro.org [116.203.91.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA2A8146D4A for ; Wed, 22 May 2024 19:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716406057; cv=none; b=nF3pfTKrAQaz0ZQTj2ZrimJS0veQFEcuK1J4KxPVRTDFdSiAoyoliqAJnzBh7+ZFeIGueyEzopebFfwXf8ibGYMHr5fdBJTrGG61ha3JVgrgKtBeHGPfoVcxswKfYFscPXTDiH0U6eODr8KZBPhg47uEkTLrTVbYaC4jCUn7xLI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716406057; c=relaxed/simple; bh=w/pjUF6/gKgekCCmiV+9ZYGFEm9eEzKa0uBfQc1wy6M=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type; b=dyq1+iU+aCyP4VR7ZOQbMG4bLe3qhgW7G7aCCmVae6oM9oX63l0EHCfv/fOEvDN2SbtWJTIhVMMdsaYwANqMAzvLabv6ncFNMHEpirMvb85mNf0078Gin//IzcoIwfzJqL9f4WO9VVnz0QNrXBq40Vrthu/Uw5GVL7nHK37Hr4I= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b=lyl68rL4; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b="lyl68rL4" Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1716406052; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=bCKFui8m/ob9wQ/NF2t7IgEcg5H7ebWvaTrdWzf4r9k=; b=lyl68rL4cedz67hrawGX3qF00Uzd1nLncjkUj+dPTuiNI46v8dYRRpZTuUEFYXRJh4GxjD VExsWwzQjoDDxLrdcITz+o7Pl2lbIRrgmF3LpU7d+vz9V2U3sRvR93r0kYFGq1QmRVb3Tr g68FlkNtQX8ktXYmKFOGTYsT5lUBVm+5hzNvd7K/Mv5Gjq0smPaiDoVzyz4hHCc8VUUWmO 4HQv4jZ0eiycaP0dLeUzKVbM1MGQVadJVVjACJZUfLWvMqG5IPgcwfhe1WqnNYw4wiEPcN oF9Dwm44zV5KlUr5vnsnh7Ntx/KwJbM8n2G9On2fGIB0A8ayZmlb4Vqm1J44cg== Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 21:27:32 +0200 From: Dragan Simic To: Gedalya Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: iproute2: color output should assume dark background In-Reply-To: <173e0ec8-583a-4d5a-931f-81d08e43fe2b@gedalya.net> References: <173e0ec8-583a-4d5a-931f-81d08e43fe2b@gedalya.net> Message-ID: <2c0a1779713b5bdd443a8e8258c7dc66@manjaro.org> X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org Hello, On 2024-05-22 21:21, Gedalya wrote: > Debian is now building iproute2 with color output on by default. This > brings attention to the fact that iproute2 defaults to a color palette > suitable for light backgrounds. > > The COLORFGBG environment variable, if present and correctly set would > select a dark background. However COLORFGBG is neither ubiquitous nor > standard. It wouldn't typically be present in a non-graphical vt, nor > is it presnet in XFCE and many other desktop environments. > > Dark backgrounds seem to be the more common default, and it seems many > people stick to that in actual use. > > The dark blue used by the ip command for IPv6 addresses is > particularly hard to read on a dark background. It's really important > for the ip command to provide basic usability e.g. when manually > bringing up networking at the console in an emergency. I find that > fiddling with extra details just to disable or improve the colors > would be an unwelcome nuisance in such situations, but the Debian > maintainer outright refuses to revert this change, without explanation > or discussion. > > Instead the maintainer suggested I submit a patch upstream, which I > will do. I've never contributed here before, so your patience and > guidance would be very highly appreciated. > > Ref: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1071582 FWIW, I'd support the change to dark background as the defult.