All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Xueyuan Chen <xueyuan.chen21@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org, usama.arif@linux.dev,
	ziy@nvidia.com, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	liam@infradead.org, nico.pache@linux.dev, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev,
	kas@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/3] mm: make persistent huge zero folio read-only
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 16:48:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e8dae0b-d81e-4c5d-b4d5-c80bde07a314@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ap7L2UEriz6DJfif@kernel.org>

On 9/7/26 16:36, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 07, 2026 at 01:18:42PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 9/7/26 08:03, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>> Hi Xueyuan,
>>>
>>>
>>> And I believe this is an historical artifact rather than necessity. For
>>> configurations that allow set_direct_map on arm64, change_memory_common can
>>> update direct map too, it just need to be implemented there.
>>>
>>
>> Are we sure the other architectures do what we want in their set_memory_ro?
> 
> It's a zoo right now :(

Yeah, that's why I'm asking :)

> Although most of them do.
> 
> But we need to sort it out anyway because of increasingly growing demand
> for modifications of the kernel page tables.

The question really is whether we want to use a single interface for all page
tables.

I quite like a page-based directmap interface. Other page table areas are not
necessarily page-based. It also expresses which types of operations we expect on
the direct map.

One could, of course, use set_memory_ro() internally to implement
set_direct_map_ro() (and similarly for other variants); but at least
set_direct_map_*() would have clear, well documented semantics.

> 
> I started something here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260721-generic-set-memory-v0-1-v1-0-2c1fc62306b3@kernel.org/
> 
> Now that x86 CPA is nearly fixed, I can look into the next iteration.
> 
>> Having a dedicated set_direct_map_ro() with clear (documented ;)) semantics does
>> not sound too crazy to me.
> 
> It's not too crazy, no.
> 
> Still making arm64 more aligned with x86 and other arches that update the
> direct/linear map in the set_memory_ro() seem a good thing on it's own.

Right, but I'd much rather user set_memory_ro() later to implement
set_direct_map_ro() [initially on architectures where we made sure that it
actually does what we expect? later maybe generically]

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-07 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-01 15:18 [PATCH v7 0/3] mm: make persistent huge zero folio read-only Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-01 15:18 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] " Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-02 20:59   ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-03  1:19     ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-03  9:20     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-03 14:09       ` Dave Hansen
2026-09-04  3:27         ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-03  9:22   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-03 12:49     ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-06 10:00       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-07  1:11         ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-07  6:03           ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-07 11:18             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-07 14:36               ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-07 14:48                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-08  7:35                   ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-08  8:29   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-08 14:48     ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-09 15:18       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10  6:22         ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-10  7:24           ` Mike Rapoport
2026-09-10  7:33             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10  7:46               ` Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-01 15:18 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] arm64/mm: add set_direct_map_ro() Xueyuan Chen
2026-09-01 15:18 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] x86/mm: " Xueyuan Chen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=2e8dae0b-d81e-4c5d-b4d5-c80bde07a314@kernel.org \
    --to=david@kernel.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=baohua@kernel.org \
    --cc=baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
    --cc=dave.hansen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=dev.jain@arm.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=kas@kernel.org \
    --cc=lance.yang@linux.dev \
    --cc=liam@infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=ljs@kernel.org \
    --cc=luto@kernel.org \
    --cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=nico.pache@linux.dev \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rppt@kernel.org \
    --cc=ryan.roberts@arm.com \
    --cc=tglx@kernel.org \
    --cc=usama.arif@linux.dev \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=xueyuan.chen21@gmail.com \
    --cc=ziy@nvidia.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.