From: Wenji Wu <wenji@fnal.gov>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] - Potential performance bottleneck for Linxu TCP
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:56:58 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f14bf623344.456de60a@fnal.gov> (raw)
Yes, when CONFIG_PREEMPT is disabled, the "problem" won't happen. That is why I put "for 2.6 desktop, low-latency desktop" in the uploaded paper. This "problem" happens in the 2.6 Desktop and Low-latency Desktop.
>We could also pepper tcp_recvmsg() with some very carefully placed preemption disable/enable calls to deal with this even with CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled.
I also think about this approach. But since the "problem" happens in the 2.6 Desktop and Low-latency Desktop (not server), system responsiveness is a key feature, simply placing preemption disabled/enable call might not work. If you want to place preemption disable/enable calls within tcp_recvmsg, you have to put them in the very beginning and end of the call. Disabling preemption would degrade system responsiveness.
wenji
----- Original Message -----
From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] - Potential performance bottleneck for Linxu TCP
> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:08:35 -0800
>
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:53:11 -0800 (PST)
> > David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Please, it is very difficult to review your work the way you have
> > > submitted this patch as a set of 4 patches. These patches have
> not> > been split up "logically", but rather they have been split
> up "per
> > > file" with the same exact changelog message in each patch posting.
> > > This is very clumsy, and impossible to review, and wastes a lot of
> > > mailing list bandwith.
> > >
> > > We have an excellent file, called
> Documentation/SubmittingPatches, in
> > > the kernel source tree, which explains exactly how to do this
> > > correctly.
> > >
> > > By splitting your patch into 4 patches, one for each file touched,
> > > it is impossible to review your patch as a logical whole.
> > >
> > > Please also provide your patch inline so people can just hit reply
> > > in their mail reader client to quote your patch and comment on it.
> > > This is impossible with the attachments you've used.
> > >
> >
> > Here you go - joined up, cleaned up, ported to mainline and test-
> compiled.>
> > That yield() will need to be removed - yield()'s behaviour is
> truly awful
> > if the system is otherwise busy. What is it there for?
>
> What about simply turning off CONFIG_PREEMPT to fix this "problem"?
>
> We always properly run the backlog (by doing a release_sock()) before
> going to sleep otherwise except for the specific case of taking a page
> fault during the copy to userspace. It is only CONFIG_PREEMPT that
> can cause this situation to occur in other circumstances as far as I
> can see.
>
> We could also pepper tcp_recvmsg() with some very carefully placed
> preemption disable/enable calls to deal with this even with
> CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled.
>
next reply other threads:[~2006-11-30 1:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-30 1:56 Wenji Wu [this message]
2006-11-30 2:19 ` [patch 1/4] - Potential performance bottleneck for Linxu TCP David Miller
2006-11-30 6:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 6:30 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 6:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 7:12 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 9:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 10:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-11-30 10:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 10:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 17:04 ` Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 20:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:58 ` Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 20:22 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:38 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 20:55 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:14 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 20:42 ` Wenji Wu
2006-12-01 9:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-01 23:18 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 6:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-30 16:08 ` Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 20:06 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 9:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-11-30 16:51 ` Lee Revell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-30 2:02 Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 6:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-29 23:27 [Changelog] " Wenji Wu
2006-11-29 23:28 ` [patch 1/4] " Wenji Wu
2006-11-30 0:53 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 1:08 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-30 1:13 ` David Miller
2006-11-30 6:04 ` Mike Galbraith
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