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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: rob.clark@oss.qualcomm.com
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/15] accel/qda: Qualcomm DSP Accelerator driver
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 16:43:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <318f14c2-0e87-4e07-8173-1511dca67d78@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACSVV01eYr6FyA6XBG0xw0yv2dydvTEhcY-WUy07mxM8WwkZcg@mail.gmail.com>

On 19/08/2026 16:38, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2026 at 7:21 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 19/08/2026 15:26, Ekansh Gupta wrote:
>>> On 19-08-2026 00:43, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On 17/08/2026 06:47, Ekansh Gupta wrote:
>>>>> This patch series introduces the Qualcomm DSP Accelerator (QDA) driver,
>>>>> a DRM-based accelerator driver for Qualcomm DSPs. The driver provides a
>>>>> standardized interface for offloading computational tasks to DSPs found
>>>>> on Qualcomm SoCs, supporting all DSP domains.
>>>>>
>>>>> The QDA driver implements the FastRPC protocol over the DRM accel
>>>>> subsystem. It uses the same device-tree node structure as the existing
>>>>> fastrpc driver in drivers/misc/. The approach for binding the QDA driver
>>>>> to device-tree nodes while coexisting with the fastrpc driver is an open
>>>>> item described below.
>>>>
>>>> No. Grow/replace/improve existing driver instead of coming with a duplicate.
>>>>
>>>> That's a standard upstream requirement, basically given on every
>>>> upstreaming guide.
>>>>
>>>> Please watch old talk from Greg - "I Don’t Want Your Code!".
>>> Posted discussion threads here[1]. Would seek comments from Dmitry,
>>> Srini as well.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/3476b5c3-7983-4994-a901-3d7d8bd75255@oss.qualcomm.com/
>>
>> The rest of the comments is still valid even if you did not acknowledge
>> them.
>>
>> Anyway, regarding above - again, watch the talk from Greg.
>>
>> You have ONE driver. Not two.
> 
> Long term, moving to the common driver framework (which did not exist
> when fastrpc was first created) seems like a good thing.  But does
> that not allow for some transition period?  How can we get from here
> to there without otherwise breaking userspace?  Is there some other
> precedent elsewhere in other driver subsystems?

Yes, Iris and Venus where we agreed for an exception (two drivers) as
long as new driver supports old hardware / features.

This is not the case here, right?

> 
> I suppose drm exposing legacy fbdev on top of drm drivers is _sort of_
> a precedent if you squint a bit?  I'm not really familiar enough to
> say if that would be reasonable/possible in this case.

Growing old driver does not look complicated itself. The only a bit
tricky thing is to present somehow exclusive interface to user-space,
like usage of one disables the second etc. Depending on actual
differences in that interface.

But having a duplicated driver is a clear no go and it is well known
upstream requirement. Nothing new here.

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-19 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-17  4:47 [PATCH v2 00/15] accel/qda: Qualcomm DSP Accelerator driver Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for Qualcomm DSP Accelerator (QDA) driver Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 19:22   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:05     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:16       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] accel/qda: Add QDA driver documentation Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] accel/qda: Add initial QDA DRM accelerator driver Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 19:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:17     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:18       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] accel/qda: Add compute bus for QDA context banks Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] iommu: Add QDA compute context bank bus to iommu_buses Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  7:01   ` Joerg Roedel (AMD)
2026-08-17 13:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-18  5:10     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 13:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] accel/qda: Create compute context bank devices on QDA compute bus Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] accel/qda: Add memory manager for CB devices Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  6:52   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  4:33     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  4:44       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] accel/qda: Add QUERY IOCTL and QDA UAPI header Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  6:58   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  4:40     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  4:45       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] accel/qda: Add DMA-backed GEM objects and memory manager integration Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:42   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  5:51     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:48   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  5:52     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] accel/qda: Add GEM_CREATE and GEM_MMAP_OFFSET IOCTLs Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:49   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  5:54     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] accel/qda: Add PRIME DMA-BUF import support Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:55   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  6:25     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] accel/qda: Add FastRPC invocation support Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  4:19   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] accel/qda: Add DSP process creation and release Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] accel/qda: Add remote memory mapping to DSP address space Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] accel/qda: Qualcomm DSP Accelerator driver Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-18 19:21   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:32     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:26   ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:21     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 14:38       ` Rob Clark
2026-08-19 14:40         ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-08-19 14:43         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-08-19 14:49           ` Rob Clark
2026-08-19 14:53             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 15:23               ` Rob Clark
2026-08-19 15:27                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 15:48                   ` Rob Clark
2026-08-18 19:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:23   ` Ekansh Gupta

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