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From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox@bzb.us>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Kent Overstreet" <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	"Sasha Levin" <sashal@kernel.org>,
	"Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"Aquinas Admin" <admin@aquinas.su>,
	"Malte Schröder" <malte.schroeder@tnxip.de>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Carl E. Thompson" <list-bcachefs@carlthompson.net>,
	linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 12:22:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3371119.aeNJFYEL58@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250810055955.GA984814@mit.edu>

Hi Theodore, hi,

Theodore Ts'o - 10.08.25, 07:59:55 CEST:
> On Sat, Aug 09, 2025 at 09:26:16PM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > And really, this whole thread feels beneath what the kernel community
> > should be. If there’s a serious question about bcachefs’s future, it
> > ought to be a quiet, direct conversation between Kent and Linus—not a
> > public spectacle.
> 
> There has been private conversations with Kent.  I will note that it
> was *Kent* who started this most recent round of e-mails[1].  In his
> e-mail, He slammed the Linux Kernel's "engineering standards", and
> btrfs in particular.  I won't quote any of it here, because it really
> is quite toxic, but please note that it was Kent who started the
> discussion about btrfs.  This kind of attack is Just Not Helpful, and
> this kind of behavior is, unfortunately, quite common coming from
> Kent.
> 
> [1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/3ik3h6hfm4v2y3rtpjshk5y4wlm5n366overw2lp72q
> k5izizw@k6vxp22uwnwa/

I kind of agree that this thread would have gone better without this mail 
from Kent.

Best,
-- 
Martin



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-10 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-28 15:14 [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Kent Overstreet
2025-08-05 21:19 ` Malte Schröder
2025-08-05 22:41   ` Carl E. Thompson
2025-08-07 12:42     ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-09 17:36       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-09 19:21         ` Josef Bacik
2025-08-09 20:37           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-09 21:34             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  2:24             ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-08-10  3:17               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  4:05                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-10  4:13                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  4:26                     ` Gerald B. Cox
2025-08-10  5:17                       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  5:59                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-08-10  6:51                         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10 10:22                         ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2025-08-11 15:48                         ` Peanut gallery 2c James Lawrence
2025-08-11 16:08                           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 17:00                             ` James Lawrence
     [not found]                             ` <aJsIOj6jbPKayO0s@mayhem.fritz.box>
2025-08-12 16:26                               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 16:48                   ` [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Aquinas Admin
2025-08-10  8:02                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-10  6:05               ` Carl E. Thompson
2025-08-11 16:02           ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-11 16:09             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-09 23:01         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-08-09 23:13           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12  7:49             ` Jani Partanen
2025-08-12 10:09               ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-11  9:51         ` Konstantin Shelekhin
2025-08-11 14:26           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 18:13             ` Carl E. Thompson
2025-08-11 18:40               ` Malte Schröder
2025-08-12  0:44                 ` Carl E. Thompson
2025-08-11 18:48               ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-11 19:42               ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-11 21:04             ` Konstantin Shelekhin
2025-08-12  1:08               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12  6:52             ` asdx
2025-08-12  7:04               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12  7:17                 ` asdx
2025-08-12 19:35             ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:03               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12 20:30                 ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:31                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12 20:38                     ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:45                       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12 20:54                         ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:57                           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 16:45           ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-10  4:29       ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2025-08-07 14:27   ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-07 17:29   ` Peter Schneider
2025-08-10  6:20 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2025-08-10 10:32   ` Martin Steigerwald

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