From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.manjaro.org (mail.manjaro.org [116.203.91.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90F571E520 for ; Thu, 23 May 2024 13:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716472044; cv=none; b=FOXeNOVvMFzPKtaWBGj9Jo3XUP2Vhl87NdG+KMG8e7Tmjsy221EoypwHcHGjKAzOcBipqVUChjB4zYbRLWMlkAHjMozgDYaJPHBp/24VqcUjUZIJxP2r9qd2QoeQsAXq9V4wGNfxbE/tDwd1FmtNgQwKYvrREXMFSNs5+PC0CDA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716472044; c=relaxed/simple; bh=O632SEV4c8g7DSyVyh4VKG9Pke7ibrTI2shAckEXxH0=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type; b=n8PN4Hg2IltR8jz8CSKn6ioWj+0fqmt4/2Vic2TRKY7rL0HhYEc4TH2/BEUwfF5hNM8/LMj6aKr6kHFSoOdf9E17gMh4Ps8uWCti0gKMQZ8P8AI7k00fj/ZguQNGdqNLKkhC/Zj4RMV/ZggT4Y6NY8MQN1eT6QH/8cheSZlHs/o= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b=nVQHAj90; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b="nVQHAj90" Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1716472038; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Q9jJndIApYA5vF1kJYhYBR4cPc85HX3Ck4s+MnMctEc=; b=nVQHAj90/xRKg+f/aCGNkmwjHTrHA710pK51BwJfTgNaqDYxR9ESE08W9TVhoWiFS/ZE0G hry/+i2IL9DvQUVDlKb45E/tj2yiLlBWs81C691Fhgr+ODFGR3lDlad6WA90vFdVgRkojA rXyG267xyMERxsWTZBTLhObl+qlhPpUZcFqCtEwVAwJaGGPXZoOyowIRk5AQbRlGBa2QKl El7FPf1QXEP4omM8TmAybGHxwp2O3CHrQ/odxrMAmmMfHd4GBdhhYpg2k3z/znLc9aA36t 2lunZq1IC12/pTJHmtR7E5Pjayo7NUoVmJfzhcrfcU/edsUzK8bBRFgFtHE4cw== Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 15:47:16 +0200 From: Dragan Simic To: Sirius Cc: Gedalya , netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: iproute2: color output should assume dark background In-Reply-To: References: <173e0ec8-583a-4d5a-931f-81d08e43fe2b@gedalya.net> <96b17bae-47f7-4b2d-8874-7fb89ecc052a@gedalya.net> <449db665-0285-4283-972f-1b6d5e6e71a1@gedalya.net> Message-ID: <3435957a9fd5645c2e12c471247cd98c@manjaro.org> X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org On 2024-05-23 15:19, Sirius wrote: > In days of yore (Thu, 23 May 2024), Gedalya thus quoth: >> Yes, echo -ne '\e]11;?\a' works on _some_ (libvte-based) terminals but >> not >> all. And a core networking utility should be allowed to focus on, >> ehhm, >> networking rather than oddities of a myriad terminals. > > Then it perhaps should not add colour to the output in the first place > and > focus solely on the networking. > > A suggestion would be the iproute2 package revert the option to compile > colourised output as default, sticking to plain text output as that > require zero assumptions about the user terminal. Carry on offering the > '-c' switch to enable it at runtime. Frankly, a better suggestion would be to leave that compile-time option supported, but to suggest that it isn't used until the current issues are resolved, or until some stopgap measures are in place.