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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: update THP documentation to clarify sysfs "never" setting
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 09:30:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35df32ae-dc95-48e1-bdb1-90f17bfd4d5c@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250721155530.75944-1-lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>



On 2025/7/21 23:55, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> Rather confusingly, setting all Transparent Huge Page sysfs settings to
> "never" does not in fact result in THP being globally disabled.
> 
> Rather, it results in khugepaged being disabled, but one can still obtain
> THP pages using madvise(..., MADV_COLLAPSE).
> 
> This is something that has remained poorly documented for some time, and it
> is likely the received wisdom of most users of THP that never does, in
> fact, mean never.
> 
> It is therefore important to highlight, very clearly, that this is not the
> ase.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> ---
>   Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst | 11 +++++++++--
>   1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> index dff8d5985f0f..182519197ef7 100644
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> @@ -107,7 +107,7 @@ sysfs
>   Global THP controls
>   -------------------
>   
> -Transparent Hugepage Support for anonymous memory can be entirely disabled
> +Transparent Hugepage Support for anonymous memory can be disabled
>   (mostly for debugging purposes) or only enabled inside MADV_HUGEPAGE
>   regions (to avoid the risk of consuming more memory resources) or enabled
>   system wide. This can be achieved per-supported-THP-size with one of::
> @@ -119,6 +119,11 @@ system wide. This can be achieved per-supported-THP-size with one of::
>   where <size> is the hugepage size being addressed, the available sizes
>   for which vary by system.
>   
> +.. note:: Setting "never" in all sysfs THP controls does **not** disable
> +          Transparent Huge Pages globally. This is because ``madvise(...,
> +          MADV_COLLAPSE)`` ignores these settings and collapses ranges to
> +          PMD-sized huge pages unconditionally.
> +
>   For example::
>   
>   	echo always >/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-2048kB/enabled
> @@ -187,7 +192,9 @@ madvise
>   	behaviour.
>   
>   never
> -	should be self-explanatory.
> +	should be self-explanatory. Note that ``madvise(...,
> +	MADV_COLLAPSE)`` can still cause transparent huge pages to be
> +	obtained even if this mode is specified everywhere.

I hope this part of the explanation is also copy-pasted into the 
'Hugepages in tmpfs/shmem' section. Otherwise look good to me. Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22  1:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-21 15:55 [PATCH] docs: update THP documentation to clarify sysfs "never" setting Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-21 16:27 ` SeongJae Park
2025-07-22  1:13 ` Zi Yan
2025-07-22  1:30 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2025-07-22  2:23   ` Barry Song
2025-07-22  2:33     ` Baolin Wang
2025-07-22  3:37       ` Barry Song
2025-07-22  5:29         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 15:41           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22  5:24     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22  5:25   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22  5:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22  5:59   ` Baolin Wang
2025-07-22  8:19   ` Barry Song
2025-07-22  7:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-22  7:59   ` David Hildenbrand

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