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From: Jon Masters <jonmasters@gmail.com>
To: "Måns Rullgård" <mru@inprovide.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Sync option destroys flash!
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 00:24:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35fb2e5905051316247eb5d4f6@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xbr7eydeg.fsf@ford.inprovide.com>

On 5/13/05, Måns Rullgård <mru@inprovide.com> wrote:

> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:

> > On Gwe, 2005-05-13 at 20:10, Michael H. Warfield wrote:

> >>  But how do you determine which are
> >> "decent" keys?  They don't put stickers on them saying "this one is
> >> decent" and "this one is junk" and I'm an old cynic who has learned that
> >> price is not always a good indicator either.  Maybe the guarantee will
> >> be a clue.  I've just got to shop for it more.
> >
> > Or it may even be cheaper to "burn" a few - buy one of each type from
> > various shops, do 2 million writes to the same sector and take them back
> > the next day if they died [And publish the review data 8))]
> 
> It's probably a good idea to get from different shops, or someone
> might get suspicious when you take them back.

Not really. I doubt the person in the shop will care.

Incidentally, I've discovered that you really don't want to buy flash
devices from camera shops. It would seem that, like I guess might be
the case with certain "audio CD" blanks you buy in stores, they don't
seem to care about selling you a device with one or two known-bad
sectors. You won't notice 512 bytes of lost data in many JPEG images
(not that I am saying it's a good practice to have) but my Zaurus
/did/ notice when I couldn't reflash it from a CF card with a fault
somewhere around 8MB. After quite some time of screwing around with
the filesystem by hand, I was able to ensure that something else was
occupying the sector in question and eventually was able to reflash
(all because it was a Sunday afternoon and we have silly Sunday
trading laws here).

When I took the CF card back to the camera shop, I took the Zaurus and
did a test on potential replacement cards while in the store -
explaining that my PDA had a "CompactFlash tester" installed, or
something like that. It's amazing what you can get away with - akin to
spending an hour in the store when I got my replacement Powerbook
after finding a single bad pixel, testing every unit to find one
without any, just to be happy :-)

Jon.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-13 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-13 16:20 Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:17 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 17:53   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:09     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:21       ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 18:26         ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:52           ` Flash device types Mark Rustad
2005-05-13 18:53           ` Sync option destroys flash! Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 17:58   ` Zan Lynx
2005-05-13 18:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 18:40 ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 19:10   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-13 22:00     ` Alan Cox
2005-05-13 22:22       ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-13 23:24         ` Jon Masters [this message]
2005-05-13 23:01       ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-05-13 23:27         ` Jon Masters
2005-05-14 10:17       ` Jörn Engel
2005-05-14  1:05   ` Michael H. Warfield
2005-05-17 13:30     ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-13 21:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-13 22:43   ` Alan Cox
2005-05-15 19:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-16  0:23   ` Mark Lord
2005-05-16  9:29     ` David Woodhouse
2005-05-16 16:42       ` Pavel Machek
2005-05-16 13:01     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-16 23:18   ` Helge Hafting
2005-05-18  7:03     ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-05-17  7:59 ` Colin Leroy
     [not found] <43Ldl-NM-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <43M9s-1B8-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <43MCx-1UF-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <43MVz-2hL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-13 23:59       ` Robert Hancock
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-14  2:43 linux
2005-05-17 13:36 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-17 20:31   ` linux
2005-05-17 20:43     ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-18 13:37     ` Lennart Sorensen
     [not found] <43UT5-jT-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-14  4:34 ` Robert Hancock
2005-05-18 11:13 linux
2005-05-18 12:01 ` Richard B. Johnson

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