[parisc-linux] cd-rom

[parisc-linux] cd-rom

[Soto, Gene G.]

I need to load 10.02 and am having problems mounting a NEC cdr-1410a cd-rom
on my system (9000/712).  Any advice on where to go for help would be
appreciated.  (SAM sees the device but I can't mount it).

thanks

Re: [parisc-linux] cd-rom

[Sandy Harris]

"Soto, Gene G." wrote:
> 
> I need to load 10.02 and am having problems mounting a NEC cdr-1410a cd-rom
> on my system (9000/712).  Any advice on where to go for help would be
> appreciated.  (SAM sees the device but I can't mount it).

Quite a few workstations seem to be picky about CD-ROM drives,
especially for booting and installing the OS. For Suns, the issue is
sector size. PC CDs want to use 512 and Sun wants 2K or vice versa.
I forget which way around it is. Some drives work on Sun, some need a
jumper change to work, some just don't.

A friend trying to install HP-UX on a 712 recently succeeded with the
fifth drive he tried. All drives worked fine on other systems. After
the install, he tried using a couple of the failed ones on the HP, and
that worked too.

I'd suggest trying a different drive.

Re: [parisc-linux] cd-rom

[Jan Bergman]

> I need to load 10.02 and am having problems mounting a NEC cdr-1410a cd-rom
> on my system (9000/712).  Any advice on where to go for help would be
> appreciated.  (SAM sees the device but I can't mount it).
> 
> thanks

Maybe a stupid question, but I have had similar problems with a floppy drive. 
Have you tried to mount it "by hand"? I.e. not using SAM, "mount /dev/dsk/c0tXd0 /cdrom" 
where X is the SCSI ID. There might (but probably not) also be a conflict 
with the SCSI ID. Does "ioscan" see the device? Try to boot from the CD,
if that doesn't work then I don't know.

/Jan Bergman
jb@irfu.se

RE: [parisc-linux] cd-rom

[Soto, Gene G.]

	> I need to load 10.02 and am having problems mounting a NEC
cdr-1410a cd-rom
	> on my system (9000/712).  Any advice on where to go for help would
be
	> appreciated.  (SAM sees the device but I can't mount it).
	> 
	> thanks

	Maybe a stupid question, but I have had similar problems with a
floppy drive. 
	Have you tried to mount it "by hand"? I.e. not using SAM, "mount
/dev/dsk/c0tXd0 /cdrom" 
	where X is the SCSI ID. There might (but probably not) also be a
conflict 
	with the SCSI ID. Does "ioscan" see the device? Try to boot from the
CD,
	if that doesn't work then I don't know.

	/Jan Bergman
	jb@irfu.se <mailto:jb@irfu.se> 



	correction: it is a NEC MultiSpin 2Xe (CDR-74-1)

	i have set the ID to 4.  I also tried it on 3 and it would not
detect it.

	it has 4 switches on the back and i have 1 & 2 set opposite of what
is recommended
	on the NEC webpage for installation on IBM or compatibles (that's
the only way SAM
	detected the device):
	switch 1 is Factory Use Only(Normal OFF) (I have it ON)
	switch 2 is Termination ON/OFF (I have it OFF)
	switch 3 is SCSI2/ON SCSI1/OFF (I have it OFF)
	switch 4 is Factory Use Only(Normal OFF) (I have it ON)

	I am running 9.01 (and don't have the 'n' option in ioscan).
	This is ioscan -f:

	Class    H/W Path  Driver   H/W Status    S/W Status 
	=====================================================
	graphics 1.0.0     graph3   ok(0x577)     ok         
	scsi     2.0.1     c700     ok(0x7071)    ok         
	disk     2.0.1.0.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok         
	disk     2.0.1.1.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok         
	disk     2.0.1.4.0 scsi     ok(0x5800100) ok         
	disk     2.0.1.5.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok         
	disk     2.0.1.6.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok         
	lan      2.0.2     lan01    ok(0x7072)    ok         
	hil      2.0.3     hil      ok(0x7073)    ok         
	serial   2.0.4     asio0    ok(0x7075)    ok         
	serial   2.0.5     asio0    ok(0x7075)    ok         
	parallel 2.0.6     parallel ok(0x7074)    ok         


	I get the following note from SAM when I try to add the disk:
	SAM was unable to determine the disk model of one of the disk drives
on your system,
	and is assuming that disk drive is used.  This may happen if the
disk drive is a
	disk array or if the disk is not listed in
/usr/sam/lib/C/pd_devinfo.tx.

	this is the only cd-rom info listed in pd_devinfo.tx:
	DISK:::scsi::::TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3301TA:::SCSI CD-ROM
drive::::::::::::::::CDROM_SCSI,
	DISK:::scsi::::TOSHIBA CD-ROM DRIVE:::::::SCSI CD-ROM
drive::::::::::::::::CDROM_SCSI,

	is it possible to add something to pd_devinfo.tx that would allow it
to mount?

	these are the device files:
	/dev/dsk/4s0
	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0
	/dev/rdsk/4s0
	/dev/rdsk/c201d4s0

	when I try adding the following entry to /etc/checklist:
	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0 /cdrom cdfs defaults

	i get the following message when i try to mount it:
	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0: Device busy

Re: [parisc-linux] cd-rom

[John David Anglin]

> 	correction: it is a NEC MultiSpin 2Xe (CDR-74-1)
> 
> 	i have set the ID to 4.  I also tried it on 3 and it would not
> detect it.
> 
> 	it has 4 switches on the back and i have 1 & 2 set opposite of what
> is recommended
> 	on the NEC webpage for installation on IBM or compatibles (that's
> the only way SAM
> 	detected the device):
> 	switch 1 is Factory Use Only(Normal OFF) (I have it ON)
> 	switch 2 is Termination ON/OFF (I have it OFF)
> 	switch 3 is SCSI2/ON SCSI1/OFF (I have it OFF)
> 	switch 4 is Factory Use Only(Normal OFF) (I have it ON)

Strange.  I have a NEC CD-ROM drive on my machine and I am pretty
certain the switch settings are per the drive manual.  In general,
If this is the last drive on the chain, termination should be on.
SCSI2 should be OK.  You should be able to see the drive with
diskinfo if you have the SCSI ID and driver major/minor set correctly.

> 	is it possible to add something to pd_devinfo.tx that would allow it
> to mount?

Yes.  However, this is only for sam.  You should be able to manually
mount/umount the drive.  The busy error indicates that some process is
trying to open device file (possibly, because you have the device listed
in /etc/checklist).

> 
> 	when I try adding the following entry to /etc/checklist:
> 	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0 /cdrom cdfs defaults
> 
> 	i get the following message when i try to mount it:
> 	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0: Device busy

-- 
J. David Anglin                                  dave.anglin@nrc.ca
National Research Council of Canada              (613) 990-0752 (FAX: 952-6605)

RE: [parisc-linux] cd-rom

[Ulrich Strelow]

Although I used HP-UX 9.x some years ago, I don't know
what your mounting problem is. But anyway, in order to
install HP-UX 10.20 you NEED to BOOT from the CD.

So please try to boot from the CD (e.g. press ESC
during the boot sequence, search for bootable devices
and select your CD hardware path 2.0.1.4.0). If you
get any errors from this procedure, please post the
error message(s) and the output from the search
command.

Ulrich      

-- "Soto,  Gene G." <Gene.Soto@bakeroiltools.com>
wrote:
> 	> I need to load 10.02 and am having problems
> mounting a NEC
> cdr-1410a cd-rom
> 	> on my system (9000/712).  Any advice on where to
> go for help would
> be
> 	> appreciated.  (SAM sees the device but I can't
> mount it).
> 	> 
> 	> thanks
> 
> 	Maybe a stupid question, but I have had similar
> problems with a
> floppy drive. 
> 	Have you tried to mount it "by hand"? I.e. not
> using SAM, "mount
> /dev/dsk/c0tXd0 /cdrom" 
> 	where X is the SCSI ID. There might (but probably
> not) also be a
> conflict 
> 	with the SCSI ID. Does "ioscan" see the device? Try
> to boot from the
> CD,
> 	if that doesn't work then I don't know.
> 
> 	/Jan Bergman
> 	jb@irfu.se <mailto:jb@irfu.se> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	correction: it is a NEC MultiSpin 2Xe (CDR-74-1)
> 
> 	i have set the ID to 4.  I also tried it on 3 and
> it would not
> detect it.
> 
> 	it has 4 switches on the back and i have 1 & 2 set
> opposite of what
> is recommended
> 	on the NEC webpage for installation on IBM or
> compatibles (that's
> the only way SAM
> 	detected the device):
> 	switch 1 is Factory Use Only(Normal OFF) (I have it
> ON)
> 	switch 2 is Termination ON/OFF (I have it OFF)
> 	switch 3 is SCSI2/ON SCSI1/OFF (I have it OFF)
> 	switch 4 is Factory Use Only(Normal OFF) (I have it
> ON)
> 
> 	I am running 9.01 (and don't have the 'n' option in
> ioscan).
> 	This is ioscan -f:
> 
> 	Class    H/W Path  Driver   H/W Status    S/W
> Status 
> 
>
=====================================================
> 	graphics 1.0.0     graph3   ok(0x577)     ok       
>  
> 	scsi     2.0.1     c700     ok(0x7071)    ok       
>  
> 	disk     2.0.1.0.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok       
>  
> 	disk     2.0.1.1.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok       
>  
> 	disk     2.0.1.4.0 scsi     ok(0x5800100) ok       
>  
> 	disk     2.0.1.5.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok       
>  
> 	disk     2.0.1.6.0 scsi     ok(0x202)     ok       
>  
> 	lan      2.0.2     lan01    ok(0x7072)    ok       
>  
> 	hil      2.0.3     hil      ok(0x7073)    ok       
>  
> 	serial   2.0.4     asio0    ok(0x7075)    ok       
>  
> 	serial   2.0.5     asio0    ok(0x7075)    ok       
>  
> 	parallel 2.0.6     parallel ok(0x7074)    ok       
>  
> 
> 
> 	I get the following note from SAM when I try to add
> the disk:
> 	SAM was unable to determine the disk model of one
> of the disk drives
> on your system,
> 	and is assuming that disk drive is used.  This may
> happen if the
> disk drive is a
> 	disk array or if the disk is not listed in
> /usr/sam/lib/C/pd_devinfo.tx.
> 
> 	this is the only cd-rom info listed in
> pd_devinfo.tx:
> 	DISK:::scsi::::TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3301TA:::SCSI
> CD-ROM
> drive::::::::::::::::CDROM_SCSI,
> 	DISK:::scsi::::TOSHIBA CD-ROM DRIVE:::::::SCSI
> CD-ROM
> drive::::::::::::::::CDROM_SCSI,
> 
> 	is it possible to add something to pd_devinfo.tx
> that would allow it
> to mount?
> 
> 	these are the device files:
> 	/dev/dsk/4s0
> 	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0
> 	/dev/rdsk/4s0
> 	/dev/rdsk/c201d4s0
> 
> 	when I try adding the following entry to
> /etc/checklist:
> 	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0 /cdrom cdfs defaults
> 
> 	i get the following message when i try to mount it:
> 	/dev/dsk/c201d4s0: Device busy
> 
>
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RE: [parisc-linux] cd-rom

[Mike MacDonald]

I don't know if this helps (collaboration), but I have a 715/50, and it will
only boot from an HP CDRom that we have around here.  I have another cdrom
that I use the rest of the time - since it works great except for booting..

Anyway, my 715 will ONLY boot HPUX from certain cdroms, but will recognize
all cdroms fine.  I just figured there was something in the firmware or
something.

In fact, I can even read the HPUX cd no problem from my cdrom, but it won't
boot from it..   The HP CDROM worked fine..

RE: [parisc-linux] cd-rom

[jay]

Further collaboration... I have been able to boot my 715/50 and 715/100
from an old single speed Chinon drive to install HPUX.

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Mike MacDonald wrote:

> 
> I don't know if this helps (collaboration), but I have a 715/50, and it will
> only boot from an HP CDRom that we have around here.  I have another cdrom
> that I use the rest of the time - since it works great except for booting..
> 
> Anyway, my 715 will ONLY boot HPUX from certain cdroms, but will recognize
> all cdroms fine.  I just figured there was something in the firmware or
> something.
> 
> In fact, I can even read the HPUX cd no problem from my cdrom, but it won't
> boot from it..   The HP CDROM worked fine..
> 
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