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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Philipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] [media]: of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core to drivers/of
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:44:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38763187.gEm4XVJAeX@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140321081537.472B2C4085E@trevor.secretlab.ca>

Hi Grant,

On Friday 21 March 2014 08:15:34 Grant Likely wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:26:12 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 March 2014 23:12:50 Grant Likely wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:52:53 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > Then we might not be talking about the same thing. I'm talking about
> > > > DT bindings to represent the topology of the device, not how drivers
> > > > are wired together.
> > > 
> > > Possibly. I'm certainly confused now. You brought up the component
> > > helpers in drivers/base/component.c, so I thought working out
> > > dependencies is part of the purpose of this binding. Everything I've
> > > heard so far has given me the impression that the graph binding is tied
> > > up with knowing when all of the devices exist.
> > 
> > The two are related, you're of course right about that.
> > 
> > We're not really moving forward here. Part of our disagreement comes in my
> > opinion from having different requirements and different views of the
> > problem, caused by experiences with different kind of devices. This is
> > much easier to solve by sitting around the same table than discussing on
> > mailing lists. I would propose a meeting at the ELC but that's still a
> > bit far away and would delay progress by more than one month, which is
> > probably not acceptable.
> > 
> > I can reply to the e-mail where I've drawn one use case I have to deal
> > with to detail my needs if that can help.
> > 
> > Alternatively the UK isn't that far away and I could jump in a train if
> > you can provide tea for the discussion :-)
> 
> I'm game for that, but it is a long train ride. I'm up in Aberdeen which
> is 8 hours from London by train. Also, I'm travelling next week to
> California (Collaboration summit), so it will have to be in 2 weeks
> time.
> 
> Why don't we instead try a Google Hangout or a phone call today.
> Anywhere between 11:30 and 14:00 GMT would work for me. I'd offer to
> provide the tea, but I haven't quite perfected transporter technology
> yet.

That would work for me, but not today I'm afraid. Will you already be in 
California on Monday ?

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-21 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-11 11:45 [RFC PATCH] [media]: of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core to drivers/of Philipp Zabel
     [not found] ` < 20140320153804.35d5b835@samsung.com>
     [not found] ` < 4339286.FzhQ2m6hoA@avalon>
     [not found] ` < 20140310145815.17595C405FA@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found] ` < CAL_Jsq+U9zU1i+STLHMBjY5BeEP6djYnJVE5X1ix-D2q_zWztQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` < 20140217181451.7EB7FC4044D@trevor.secretlab.ca>
2014-02-11 13:56 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-11 14:52   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-11 15:23     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-11 16:36       ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]         ` <1392136617.6943.33.camel-/rZezPiN1rtR6QfukMTsflXZhhPuCNm+@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-11 17:22           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-11 17:22             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-11 17:41             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-11 21:00               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2014-02-11 21:46             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-11 17:24           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-11 17:24             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-11 16:30     ` Rob Herring
2014-02-11 15:27   ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-17 18:14   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-18  7:06     ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-18 16:26       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` < 1393263389.3091.82.camel@pizza.hi.pengutronix.de>
     [not found]           ` <20140226110114. CF2C7C40A89@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found]         ` <20140218162627.32BA4C40517-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-24 17:36           ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-24 17:36             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-26 11:01             ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 14:48               ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]                 ` <1393426129.3248.64.camel-+qGW7pzALmz7o/J7KWpOmN53zsg1cpMQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-27  8:36                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-02-27  8:36                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 17:06                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 10:57                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 17:05                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-07 17:05                   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 10:33                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-08 11:41                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 23:25                       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-03-10 10:18                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                         ` <531D916C.2010903-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-10 13:52                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 13:52                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 14:10                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 14:10                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 14:58                             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-10 15:15                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 15:40                                 ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-11 11:43                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 12:59                                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                       ` <1883687.VdfitvQEN3@samsung.com>
     [not found]                                         ` <avalon@samsung.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <531F08A8.300-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-11 13:16                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 13:16                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 13:27                                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 13:27                                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 13:44                                             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-20 17:23                                           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 10:44                                             ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-03-21 11:47                                               ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:16                                                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                                   ` <532C2D94.4020705-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-21 14:33                                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 14:33                                                       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:09                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-11 13:04                                 ` Andrzej Hajda
     [not found]                                   ` <531F09E2.3070407-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 17:33                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:33                                       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:01                                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:01                                   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:10                                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 15:07                               ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]                                 ` <1394550420.3772.29.camel-+qGW7pzALmz7o/J7KWpOmN53zsg1cpMQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-11 15:21                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 15:21                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 18:52                                     ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-20 17:53                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:36                                   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:36                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-12 10:25                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-12 10:47                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                 ` <53203B2D.6080201-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 11:21                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-12 11:21                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 17:54                               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                 ` <20140320175432.0559CC4067A-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:16                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:16                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:18                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                       ` <20140320181820.GY7528-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:50                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:50                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 19:27                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:38                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-20 18:38                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-20 18:43                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20 18:49                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21  8:20                                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-21  8:20                                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                 ` <20140320153804.35d5b835@ samsung.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <20140320153804.35d5b835-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:48                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 18:48                                       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                       ` <20140320184816.7AB02C4067A-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 18:52                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:52                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 23:12                                           ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                             ` <20140320231250.8F0E0C412EA-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-20 23:26                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 23:26                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21  8:15                                                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:44                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2014-03-21 13:26                                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 13:26                                                       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-10 14:41                           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-10 14:41                             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 11:54                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <20140217181451.7EB7FC4044D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-18 10:43       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-18 10:43         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-18 13:41     ` Philipp Zabel

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