From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from diktynna.open-mesh.org (diktynna.open-mesh.org [136.243.236.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 142C5C636CD for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 10:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from diktynna.open-mesh.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by diktynna.open-mesh.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2029F846E5 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 11:58:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from dvalin.narfation.org (dvalin.narfation.org [213.160.73.56]) by diktynna.open-mesh.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92AD980578 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 11:57:47 +0100 (CET) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=20121; d=open-mesh.org; t=1675767467; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=whdbcuaaySILlha+Xmix42+Jpnoy0FEl+ndzJcA4dHiTvqJd6WVKCZs2qIXIs9UWeC0+oK H5zxrh3Ocz5Ay9KhZbS+9VtWyjhYN3YHtf40/gVcmd2MGDy81YtNMdyHq6jnvbq0IH/dgr NwH/GY9mbnoBvMnAAPCMnZ054vLHu0Q= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; diktynna.open-mesh.org; dkim=pass header.d=narfation.org header.s=20121 header.b="Bu1w6I/J"; spf=pass (diktynna.open-mesh.org: domain of sven@narfation.org designates 213.160.73.56 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sven@narfation.org; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=narfation.org ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=open-mesh.org; s=20121; t=1675767467; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=twwWEE4WjjCfg99cZRakSAtV07e2F6CYBPPCSXxSISM=; b=SC8ghepb+k/ofvcIY1siqTEuRN76IaOpLbQRJAmz0xQHZJh1B92Th+BsfzDLx681znC4ix IGuCA9k/qXtqR/Eq2HvBf1Zs7DYL1VbUWOgvhrDXHhPXGUqNNP6rX+5pb3qKrJ5/oTXkl+ QiSXDUGiAv/1JyxoHgiXe5n0ROz3yWE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=narfation.org; s=20121; t=1675767467; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=twwWEE4WjjCfg99cZRakSAtV07e2F6CYBPPCSXxSISM=; b=Bu1w6I/JBYcenWPVw/KaX7Eyd3Q1a6ptM29w8VCgG6DffX3yuS4W+wLfbF9olSgF1/HOaD KD1+bQIIxv5klElwyf1LR7SY9Ydiwd8PpIbJz3nt8huylL99SFiNnME2f4R+tTWxC+ZmV7 F7MOL+4Uoj078gv2+OkzUdneHFuDb9w= From: Sven Eckelmann To: Leon Romanovsky Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] batman-adv: Start new development cycle Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:57:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3940036.VdNmn5OnKV@ripper> In-Reply-To: References: <20230127102133.700173-1-sw@simonwunderlich.de> <4503106.V25eIC5XRa@ripper> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3012276.PIDvDuAF1L"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Message-ID-Hash: GFCBZKVTJPOS4E5CCYQVL3XWT27RKSKR X-Message-ID-Hash: GFCBZKVTJPOS4E5CCYQVL3XWT27RKSKR X-MailFrom: sven@narfation.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-b.a.t.m.a.n.lists.open-mesh.org-0; header-match-b.a.t.m.a.n.lists.open-mesh.org-1; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header CC: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org, Jiri Pirko , kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --nextPart3012276.PIDvDuAF1L Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; protected-headers="v1" From: Sven Eckelmann To: Leon Romanovsky Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] batman-adv: Start new development cycle Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:57:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3940036.VdNmn5OnKV@ripper> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:41:53 CET Leon Romanovsky wrote: > Once you stop to update version, you will push users to look on the real > version (kernel) which really matters. I would have understood if you say "let us use a magic value like 'in-tree' or 'linux'" but setting it to an old (existing) version number - I don't want to live with the headaches it creates. Because this is what users often don't (want) to understand: if it looks like a valid version number, why isn't it the valid version number? So I have to do a lot of pushing - without any rewards because it is necessary to push every new "user". Kind regards, Sven --nextPart3012276.PIDvDuAF1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEF10rh2Elc9zjMuACXYcKB8Eme0YFAmPiLqUACgkQXYcKB8Em e0YKwxAAwewFwrNpytsfpzAIxdnmF3AgpNErn1Sv+GI0o2V41uBL0dFYi1WJu0xo xxAqYNTujRT/+c62Rh2M64ex4pWj8rdPSk4qzHW/QYc3oxUkywger8LV6An8T5eV LOUanSE3Jho3N2sZSxWBDrsX4d7qsDGxEm7V7LI9JTZj/OOOQhKnP4YFG2EAdXKv a5mKp+knqu5hxjvFQHSTKRKim0rzIgo0vnWl/S2MMn9jZrwJ7Or5XBiQsUev7iTC aWe+xoRmQRFakOBv/iedMgs2CaIUqE8u89nPm+MtaiLsyTyNArfpPU7NSsXA8sf/ DP/JtxcCvV1KYEw3709iZs89bESjAqpjk8z7wRzbYpC7yjxDoNEHZTh9bF+WKDzp IYjsJXZ5//BcpuDDtNqnWJ81WmOue9ey+Mo1KBtW2h+1Mx8A+7z1qt1vYAGYtxgn rnPZfZ5peIfmvt+isJCU+1W5acewaLY3UaW6D9VX4MM+HUbvk4RClUx2lcfvGITp XooEo1Z0YOMr6GcbtYdz2Ze0uFweTlY/5lfI/C9iYY3W5Cf1B4l1xI9CdM8j7cBB GP/smY5uARwGbGhUpdhSF+ZylvEVJLDxUh0YVTHrYjpfYMZgKOyOa0AYxy4rU1hA ZHr8TAhqQLN83Q7hXBjHsVKCJ30W9ggNUojlDHIkorqCzQVwJ2g= =UFiJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3012276.PIDvDuAF1L-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57404C636CC for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 10:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231792AbjBGK57 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2023 05:57:59 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57966 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231886AbjBGK5y (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2023 05:57:54 -0500 Received: from dvalin.narfation.org (dvalin.narfation.org [213.160.73.56]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 731F52D149 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 02:57:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=narfation.org; s=20121; t=1675767467; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=twwWEE4WjjCfg99cZRakSAtV07e2F6CYBPPCSXxSISM=; b=Bu1w6I/JBYcenWPVw/KaX7Eyd3Q1a6ptM29w8VCgG6DffX3yuS4W+wLfbF9olSgF1/HOaD KD1+bQIIxv5klElwyf1LR7SY9Ydiwd8PpIbJz3nt8huylL99SFiNnME2f4R+tTWxC+ZmV7 F7MOL+4Uoj078gv2+OkzUdneHFuDb9w= From: Sven Eckelmann To: Leon Romanovsky Cc: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org, Jiri Pirko , Linus =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=FCssing?= , kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] batman-adv: Start new development cycle Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:57:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3940036.VdNmn5OnKV@ripper> In-Reply-To: References: <20230127102133.700173-1-sw@simonwunderlich.de> <4503106.V25eIC5XRa@ripper> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3012276.PIDvDuAF1L"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org --nextPart3012276.PIDvDuAF1L Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; protected-headers="v1" From: Sven Eckelmann To: Leon Romanovsky Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] batman-adv: Start new development cycle Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:57:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3940036.VdNmn5OnKV@ripper> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:41:53 CET Leon Romanovsky wrote: > Once you stop to update version, you will push users to look on the real > version (kernel) which really matters. I would have understood if you say "let us use a magic value like 'in-tree' or 'linux'" but setting it to an old (existing) version number - I don't want to live with the headaches it creates. Because this is what users often don't (want) to understand: if it looks like a valid version number, why isn't it the valid version number? So I have to do a lot of pushing - without any rewards because it is necessary to push every new "user". Kind regards, Sven --nextPart3012276.PIDvDuAF1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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