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From: Rick Jones <raj@cup.hp.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]]
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:03:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A65FA77.9E1C1117@cup.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101171104560.9845-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>

> The fact that I understand _why_ it is done that way doesn't mean that I
> don't think it's a hack. It doesn't allow you to sendfile multiple files
> etc without having nagle boundaries, and the header/trailer stuff really
> isn't a generic solution.

Hmm, I would think that nagle would only come into play if those files
were each less than MSS and there were no intervening application level
reply/request messages for each. So, perhaps rcp, but not FTP nor HTTP.
I'm not sure where the break-even point versus send() is on other OSes,
but it seems to be in the neighborhood of the typical ethernet MSS on
HP-UX.

As for the header/trailer stuff, you're right, I should have spec'd a
separate iovec for each :)

> Also note how I said that it is the BSD people I _despise_. Not The HP-UX

That misunderstanding would be the result of my entering the
conversation in the middle...

> implementation. The HP-UX one is not pretty, but it works. But I hold open
> source people to higher standards. They are supposed to be the people who
> do programming because it's an art-form, not because it's their job.

I'm not sure, but I think I've just been insulted !-) (in case it is not
clear, that is meant as a joke...)

rick jones
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-17 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2001-01-17 19:27 ` [Fwd: [Fwd: Is sendfile all that sexy? (fwd)]] Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 20:03   ` Rick Jones [this message]
2001-01-17 20:38     ` dean gaudet
2001-01-17 20:57       ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 14:57           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:24           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19  2:46         ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19  3:03           ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19 19:07           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 20:03             ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:20               ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 18:03                 ` kuznet
2001-01-22 18:44                   ` Rick Jones
2001-01-20 14:56           ` Kai Henningsen
2001-01-23  7:20             ` dean gaudet
2001-01-20 23:09           ` Lincoln Dale
2001-01-20 23:27             ` James Sutherland
2001-01-21  0:02               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-18 12:56       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-25 17:58         ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-17 21:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:17       ` Rick Jones
2001-01-17 22:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 22:44           ` Jonathan Walther
2001-01-18 13:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:49             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 17:49               ` Zach Brown
2001-01-19  3:16                 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19  3:56                   ` David Ford
2001-01-18 18:29               ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 18:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:38               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 19:43                 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:52                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 20:11                     ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:33                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:14                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:24                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:37                     ` kuznet
2001-01-18 21:04                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19  0:27                         ` Olivier Galibert
2001-01-19  0:59                           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-19 17:52                         ` kuznet
2001-01-19 20:54                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 20:44                     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 21:54                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 21:57                         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:16                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-18 22:18                             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-19 15:25                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19 18:18                                 ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:13                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 17:28                                     ` kuznet
2001-01-20 18:14                                       ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-01-20 18:23                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:05                                         ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:30                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 19:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-20 20:22                                               ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:20                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 20:56                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-21 18:37                                                 ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:39                                             ` kuznet
2001-01-20 21:05                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-20 21:31                                               ` Guus Sliepen
2001-01-18 22:20                             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 19:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 19:59                 ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:44                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-19  3:25                 ` dean gaudet
2001-01-19  3:35                   ` dean gaudet
2001-01-18  9:34         ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 18:20           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 19:45             ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-18 20:30             ` kuznet
2001-01-18 20:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 22:49               ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 13:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 16:51           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 17:04             ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-17 21:51 Dan Kegel
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2001-01-24  0:19 Cacophonix

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